Souls, soul loss, shamanism and TGU

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A friend (though we have never met) asked me, out of his shamanistic experiences, about the soul. I answered with a little help from my friends, and asked his permission to reprint the correspondence here, which he graciously gave.

Dear Jim.

 > I’ve been thinking about soul.  In one of your fairly recent “knowledge” blogs, the Guys defined soul: the local manager, recording every moment.  Add an endowment at birth, and I buy that, building our soul through experience. 

There is also a nuance that you probably see but just in case I will mention: The soul is a particular gathering of threads – many more threads than we can ever possibly express (wherein inheres our freedom of choice) – that shapes itself by its choices throughout a lifetime. That shape – that habit-of-being, perhaps we can call it – remains when it returns to the other side, and thus remains as a resource for the other side to see this world through. I am sure it has other uses – oh yes, let me try again, letting them come through as cleanly as I can: Continue reading Souls, soul loss, shamanism and TGU

TGU session 01-11-02 in the black box (2)

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[continued from previous post]

R: All right, I think I understand that. It seemed though that the guys, as representing a different level than you as an individual, seemed to see things from a different perspective than you do, and they’re trying to teach us on this level to understand their perspective, but we don’t in fact see without the time and space dimensions. So I’m wondering that about another level. Whether there is talent there that we can understand that would be different from the first two layers here.

F: Well, the only thing that comes to mind right away on that, it is that in fact it isn’t an “us” and a “you,” and it isn’t a “they” and an “us,” it’s all one thing and these distinctions that we go along with making, still you have to remember they’re not real distinctions. It isn’t Frank on one end, the guys on the other end, even though it’s convenient to look at it that way. It really is that you are seeing a part of a being and in trying to understand what you’re seeing, you’re dissecting the parts, and that’s true as far as it goes, but don’t lose sight of the fact that the parts are parts of one thing, and this goes all the way up and all the way down. We know you know that, but we need to continually reemphasize it, because your spatial analogies — which we really don’t think you’ll ever be able to get out of while you’re in the body — by their very nature separate things into here and there. And your time analogies separate into now and then and when. But the separation is not real, it’s just convenient.

We understand your question. Is there a difference beyond us as noticeable as the difference beyond us in your dimension where everything is compressed into matter? But we have to say, one world a time.

R: OK, we’re ready to release that for now unless you have something else to say about that.

F: No, just that you can think of it as, if you would magnify pictures of the ganglia of the brain, and think of that as a miniature picture of the way reality is, and don’t look at it logically but look at it as a picture — in other words don’t analyze it by logical but  analyze it by your spatial appreciation — it’ll give you some sense of the holographic nature of things. It may, anyway. Continue reading TGU session 01-11-02 in the black box (2)

Discouraged? Advice from TGU

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[Wednesday, February 1, 2006]

Sending material proved to be the right thing to do, as this morning I awoke late and tired and discouraged, fired up the new machine just to delete the “games” folder – which I did – and when I looked at email, the first in order of sending was from [my brother] Paul saying “Do you know how wonderful what you’re doing is?” And there were other cheering messages, from Rich and from Ann Martin. It helps.

All right, friends.

You see that sending out the material was right. Right for you, right for unpredictably many who eventually read it. Internet = immortality, you know – old versions of your Gateway writing are still out there. In this you are a bit like your old photographer friend who would find that people had saved his pictures that you printed on the front of your paper and would pin them on a bulletin board, or clip them to the refrigerator.

Is Paul entirely right, that discouragement is built of “falsely conceived expectations of ourselves”?

You heard it just then, you see: It isn’t like he is immune to discouragement. No one is, it is a human characteristic, and perhaps we shall say something about it. Continue reading Discouraged? Advice from TGU

Black box session — 9-15-00 (3)

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Friday, September 15, 2000

Debrief after session number two, edited (part two)

F: Remind me what the galvanic skin response is? That’s the conductivity?

S: Yes. It relates to the sudorific system, i.e. the potassium and salt content in the skin tissues, which is an involuntary response to emotional arousal. So when you have a rush of emotional arousal, whether it be fear or anger, or love, or anything – basically, you begin to sweat. Your skin tissue’s ratio of potassium/sodium changes, and your conductivity of the skin changes. So we like to see a distancing from emotions, a withdrawal, backing away, only because in the cosmology of Bob Monroe, our emotional conductivity is based on learned belief systems, so that if we can leave behind the luggage or baggage of our learned belief systems, then we can have more pure experience. But that’s a Monroe cosmology.

F: So with the green, then, which way is it. Continue reading Black box session — 9-15-00 (3)

A New Model of Consciousness in Space and Time – 8

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Sunday, January 22, 2006]

…8:50 a.m. I was about to see if finally I might feel like painting but realized I am feeling a slight depression, and it occurs to me, maybe because I haven’t done my accustomed work, which is coming to be a comfort to me day by day. As I write this I am aware of another train of thought running beneath, and see how impossible ever to say all we mean. So my friends maybe we should begin. What have you for me today?

A bit of advice, for one – you don’t need to begin at any given time. If you don’t feel quite awake, maybe you aren’t ready, even if on the previous day you were working before this.

I understand. And reading pointless mystery novels doesn’t help.

How can you know? It takes all sorts of things to make up a life, and you have found many valued attitudes and aptitudes as a result of reading what to many might have looked like pointless waste of time. Continue reading A New Model of Consciousness in Space and Time – 8

Black box session — 9-15-00 (1)

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Session two of ten

Friday, September 15, 2000

[Background. This session not at 9 a.m. as the first, but at 11 a.m., which gave me time to have drunk a couple of cups of coffee beforehand, and time to talk to TGU in my journal, who said in part: “Continue to expect the unexpected, but continue, also, to be prepared for the unexpected to be – blankness. Nothingness. It could happen.” I replied, “But I’d bet not. It is the expectation you are trying to manage,” and they said, merely, “you know our methods, Watson.”]

Skip had no objection to my recording our post-session debriefing, and so I did. Continue reading Black box session — 9-15-00 (1)