The Other World

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R: [pause] Yes, I think that’s helpful in thinking about that question. One of Frank’s questioners actually then wanted to know is this going to be a hard winter. [they chuckle]

F: Did they mean climatalogically?

R: I think so.

F: Or emotionally?

R: I think they meant what’s the climate. And other people of course are looking at the caterpillars to see how fuzzy their coats are, to get this information.

F: Well, Let’s leave it at this. Remember how every time you ask us what’s going to happen we say “yes”? [they laugh]

R: Yes.

F: Yes it’s going to be a hard winter; no it’s not going to be a hard winter, yes it’ll be an average winter, no it won’t be an average winter. Depends on where you go! Now. We’ll qualify that. You’ll notice we didn’t say that about the increased level of earth activity. And the reason we didn’t is, because it’s well past the point where it could not be. That is, the level of manifestation and the form and the variety of manifestation, and the time period over which it occurs, is all still subject to flux, but that it has to happen. At some point that energy must be balanced. That’s the best way we can put that. And the simplest, most effective way to balance it is the last one you as “people” will try. And that of course is, change of heart.

R: [pause] Hmm. Yes. Well —

F: The religious would say, repentance. Metanoia.

R: And you suggested that this had been in some way held off, delayed, for a bit but that the delay is not going to continue. Continue reading TGU session 10-16-01 (2)

Rita Warren: Well, good evening to the gentlemen upstairs.

F: Good evening yourselves.

R: Frank seems to be worried that some time he or I or someone else will ask a question and there will be no answer. Would you comment on that?

F: Well that’s the symptom, but the actual worry is more like there will be no answer because we don’t exist. [laughs] Because he’s making this up as we go along. And so, as we told him once, it’s remarkable that on the one hand he thinks we know everything and on the other hand he’s not sure we’re here. So when you ask a question and nothing comes up, what he’s failing to realize is that what’s happening is, he’s clutching. He’s so worried for us not performing that he’s having our performance anxiety for us, so to speak. And the access is closed and we couldn’t go through with a sledge hammer. Which, by the way, is most people’s problem with talking to their equivalent of us. They’re so concerned about it that they clutch and the tube is sealed off, you know?

Just play and pretend, and don’t worry about what comes, and just make it up as you go along, and when you realize after a while that it’s real, by then it will be too late to have performance anxiety. But that’s his real problem, and that’s our response to it. And our response to him is, “if you’re so worried about it, why don’t you just let us fall flat on our face, and then you’ll know?” Continue reading TGU session 10-16-01 (1)

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R: Mm-hmm. You up to another question, here?

F: Sure.

R: This question is, are you extraterrestrials? [chuckles]

F: [laughs] Are you? [they laugh]

R: That question doesn’t —

F: I think the question is rooted in some assumptions that we don’t share. In the first place, there is no difference between you and extra-terrestrials except where you’re living. Continue reading TGU session 10-09-01 (3)

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R: I can’t get over last session, it was so long I guess. I asked about comparison of material that Frank brings forth and the Seth material brought forth by Jane Roberts. And you suggested that we practice looking at this question from your point of view

F: Mm-hmm. Have you done so?

R: I tried to do that, and I really didn’t get any new insights, I guess, because I find myself going back to things that you have said, and it comes out something like this:

From your perspective, we are all a totality that includes Frank and Jane, a totality that’s not sliced into time and space segments, yet somehow Frank and Jane each have a collectivity that includes some aspects that are specific to the cores of themselves so that Frank has the gentlemen upstairs, and Jane has a Seth, as well as possible overlapping aspects. And in your position, you could focus on Frank, and/or Jane, but in the two cases, the responding collectivity would be somewhat different in composition for the two of them. So, I don’t know – I don’t think these interpretations are wrong, from what you said, but I think that is in line with what you said so far. [chuckles] I have to add that so far.

F: Well, that’s an ingenious first attempt, but it underlines the vast distance we have to go. Very interesting. We had no idea that you’d come at it that way. It’s very interesting. Continue reading TGU session 10-09-01 (2)

Rita Warren: Maybe this is my nit-picking, and we can turn off my nit-picking at any time, but I tend to get caught up in things like definitions, and making sure I understand what we’re talking about, and —

F: Could we re-phrase that? We would say you tend to get caught up in trying to get clarity! That’s what you’re supposed to do! [they laugh]

R: Oh good.

F: [laughs]

R: All right, well I think the first one will be easily taken care of. It has to do with the word “channeling.” Frank has not wanted or not used that word for what’s going on here, on the grounds that he is present. Now to me that doesn’t exclude that definition at all. Being present or not present is a matter of the development of the consciousness, whether it can tolerate being present or not. So when someone asks “is this channeling,” I hate to say no because I think it is. Do you have any suggestions around that word? Continue reading TGU session 10-09-01 (1)

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R: All right. Now there are a group of questions that have come in to Frank, based on their reading the material from past sessions. I’d like to ask some of these.

This came from a person who’s asking can he simply shift his consciousness, becoming one of his other versions – one of the other versions of him – and thus I guess be in a much happier life circumstance.

F: All right, that’s an interesting question. It’s founded, though, on a misunderstanding, we think. [pause] We’ll back up, as always.

Let’s say there are 50 versions of you – a vast understatement, but let’s say there are 50. We’re talking about 50 versions of you in your present lives, just because of different choices. All those versions exist and always did exist. It isn’t like they were only created when you chose, because when you chose you went down one or the other that already existed. To say “can I change my consciousness to move over to another life that has better choices, which took better choices,’’ which is in a sense is what he’s asking, is to think that he can leave any path. And in fact the actual reality is, you all are on all paths. As we’ve said earlier, we can’t answer a question that says will this happen or will it not happen because the answer is always “yes it will” and “no it won’t”! Continue reading TGU session 10-02-01 (3)