Nathaniel on Anastasia’s question
Monday, November 27, 2017
6:25 a.m. I think restricting these conversations to two or three a week may work out well, giving me time to do other things as well. We’ll see. We have one reader’s question that is a question I’ve had, namely why we identify with any one path while in 3D and not others.
[Anastasia’s question, posted 11-23-2017 in response to `Nathaniel – An end and a beginning’: “Since all the paths and all the consequences of our choices / decisions exist at all times, what determines which path / set of consequences our conscious awareness will experience? Why is our every day awareness rooted in one path / timeline and not another, since all of them exist equally, and what determines which path that is?”]
And here is a question that I know I don’t have an answer to, because I’ve wondered and have come up with no response.
That actually is not proof, because what you don’t connect with at one time, you may at another. Remember, it is important to stop thinking that “the other side” is all-knowing and instantly all-knowing, at that. If you were to refer to “the other side” as a whole, then yes, all information obviously exists. But think about the situation by analogy. Your thinking is the equivalent of our saying, from the non-3D “side,” that since the 3D includes all its geography, you should be able to be in Kansas or Siam or Alpha Centauri on command, and right away. Or, a slightly less far-fetched example, since you have the internet, all human knowledge ought to be available to you at one click, whereas, as you well know, there are practical limits to available knowledge that in a sense overrule theoretically wider limits.
You are saying, sometimes a particular bit of information is far enough from the individual or group we connect with to require a bucket-brigade to fetch it, which can take time, even though, as we all know, “on the other side there is no time.”
That’s right. It is a practical limitation that you have experienced, and anybody who has ever communicated with guidance, or with non-3D friends or acquaintances, or with others in 3D even, (given that mental communication proceeds invisibly through non-3D channels, as you have been told). It is a limitation that has caused you great anxiety.
Oh yes. At first, when I couldn’t get an answer instantly, I would worry that it was all my imagination, that there was nobody on the other end of the line, etc. But then I thought, if it is my imagination, that still wouldn’t explain why sometimes there would be a delay.
“Arranging our cover story,” you used to say facetiously.
Finally I came to accept it as a fact of life, and it made things easier.
But, you see, as we pointed out a few paragraphs ago, difficulty in obtaining information or conceptualizations or even ideas says nothing about whether the process is “you” or is “us.”
And you are about to say, it is more or less a meaningless distinction anyway.
Not “anyway”; that is why it is a meaningless distinction. As so often, you cannot quite rein in the assumptions of separation that 3D life inculcates.
I see that. By the way: “Siam”? You guys have only old gazetteers over there? You’ve never heard of Thailand?
Let’s remember whose mind we are restricted to in order to get to the pen.
Can’t blame it on me. Is it one of those chance things that really doesn’t mean anything, or what?
Remember, we move in time as you do in space. You might look at our three examples as present, past, future, as well.
Well, that’s interesting. I’d give something to know if that is any more than you tacking on a rationalization after the fact. But, you’ve surely had enough time to arrange your cover story, so what is your answer to Anastasia’s, and my, question?
The answer to what seems a straight-forward question is difficult to formulate only because – as so often – several background conditions need to be clarified. Unconscious assumptions are perhaps the most tenacious obstacles to new understandings.
I’m not sure obstacles can be tenacious, but we know what you mean. So, how do you propose to begin?
Let’s look at the subject from the other end of the microscope / telescope. How does a Sam experience its creatures’ lives? Because, remember, it isn’t really a matter of the Sam waiting for a life to terminate and return to report. It is convenient to talk about the process that way, just as it is convenient to think that the 3D life is separate from the All-D existence until 3D death, but it is only a convenience. In truth, consciousness is as undivided by time as it is by space. You may think of yourselves as reporting home every second, just as you think of receiving guidance and feedback every second.
But undivided doesn’t mean instant.
It is specifically to slow things down that is one prime function of 3D life. Perceived separation in time and space allows for analysis, choice and re-choice, alternations.
Not entirely clear.
Clear enough for the moment. Maybe another time we can get into alternations. Create your “future questions” file.
So, how does your Sam experience your life? Remember, a Sam experiences all its lives, moment by moment, continually. It isn’t sitting at a desk waiting for, or wading through, reports. It is living those lives, just as you are living them.
Yes, we know that presents difficulty. Go to “as above, so below” for an intuitive analogy. Your blood cells, etc., experience their own lives at their level of consciousness, at the same time that you experience the same life at your level of consciousness. Well, extend upwards. Your Sam experiences your life in the way that you experience your constituent cells’ lives, in a combination of awareness and inattention, much as you do. And just as your attention is not limited to your blood cells, neither is a Sam’s attention limited to any one life.
I’m struck by that “combination of awareness and inattention,” as I’m sure you intended I would be.
It merely points out that any given level of consciousness concentrates on one kind of data and absorbs other kinds automatically – perhaps through subsystems. Nobody concentrates on everything all the time. That would amount to concentrating on nothing, ever.
I sort of thought that “concentration” is a 3D-oriented idea anyway.
Long subject; another time. We haven’t gotten very far yet on our main subject for the morning.
So as you – and uncounted other lives Sam has created from its own essence – live your lives, it all flows through channels, you might say. This [non-3D; presumably All-D] world is organized. It isn’t just jello, as you were told long ago. The very nature of creation in 3D assures a chain of connection, rather than chaotic omni-connection directly to the Sam, so to speak.
That makes sense, as you say it, if you mean that life is like a tree diagram, with every extension leading backward to its source and forward to its own extension.
That’s the idea, yes. Not jello. But not a bureaucracy, either. Things connect not by rule but by their nature.
I see that, and I imagine it will be clear in writing as well. (That is, without the benefit of a direct link as now.)
But we’re only beginning the answer. This was only the first piece of information. As your hour is up, and there is much more to say, let’s resume this when you are fresh.
And, I take it, you don’t care how long from now that turns out to be.
We don’t care, but you may. Come back to the material before you drift out of reach of it, or we shall need to start all over again.
Meaning – I take it – that explanations build scaffolding, but after we have moved far enough away (in concepts? In life experiences?), we would need to begin again.
Close enough. It isn’t a stringent limitation, but it exists. As an extreme example, if you were to exit 3D before completing the scaffolding, someone else might or might not be able to continue the construction, or might be constrained to begin again on ground familiar to him- or her- self.
Well, it’s always an education, talking to you guys. See you next time, and thanks for your (sometimes cryptic) explanations.