Reader Dave Stephens posted a long reply to my “Tapping Into the Cosmic Internet” entry, and asked questions that were sufficiently interesting that I asked, and got, his permission to post them here as a separate post, since not everybody reads the comments people send.
I started to reply, then realized that I didn’t know what to say. Of course, the obvious answer was to let the guys speak for themselves, so that’s what I will do, with my initial comments inserted within brackets [like this], and theirs at the end.
July 13, 2011 at 9:24 pm
Enjoyed your appearance on Coast To Coast, good interview.
So, I got the new book and it did clarify things about “crystallizing” personalities better.
But, some things in this new work don’t click with what I’ve read for years and years, from OB explorers from Monroe, Seth books, Cayce, and any rational grounded works I could find from real life explorers. Not arguing with you but what TGU’s statement that the life we are living is IT, then we’re done here….hmmmmm.
[Bear in mind, anything we bring over from the other side has so many ways it could be wrong! I could mis-hear it; I could meld it with ideas I have had]
Why I have a problem with this is the results of that idea would be that Earth would pretty much just be a massive “misery mill,” turning out personalities that have never existed before with just a few short years to get it together. Reality is that pretty much all of us are going to die with regrets, unfulfilled desires etc. Then TGU says we can’t develop past what we’ve gained here in the fraction of a second we were alive and that we can only further develop by being a “strand” in someone else’s life, if we are “lucky.” So, after we die all we will have is this personality that maybe had a real bad time here and we’re stuck with those regrets for eternity. It begins to sound like a bad sci-fi plot, or a definition of hell ;-(
I agree that there has to be positive and negative in all reality, but this again means those of us who were born to be on the negative side of things, murderers etc. will depart this life only to live in eternal regrets and misery at the damage done by serving the negative pole of the universe. An eternity of suffering, how is this fair or make any sense at all, it would seem that the physical plane would just keep generating more and more suffering and regretful souls until all of reality would just deadlock in darkness.
I also read Whitley Strieber’s THE KEY about a paranormal visit he had from some strange man, who seems to suggest that’s exactly how things work, even so far as stating that Earth is a “fallen world” and that “God is angry with us, the fallen ones.” He also talked about crystallizing souls and recommended meditation to strength the energy body for that purpose.
[I haven’t read The Key, so can’t comment on it.]
Seth never painted a picture like TGU or Strieber’s visitor, saying that we all have many many lives that all exist at once and that we are currently “focused” in our present life. This gives us the opportunity to experience lives of light and lives of darkness, and experience everything physical life consists of. He said we come from soul groups that we are always in touch with and that we go to “school” between incarnations etc. If you read JOURNEY OF SOULS by Michael Newton, he was a hypnotist who accidentally tapped into people’s soul histories and actually had people’s guides channel through the person he was working with. He had no belief system about any of this before he stumbled into it, so his work is as untainted as it should be. Again his subjects tell of between lives going to school, choosing life scenarios to be born into, even practicing those lives in 3D simulations, choosing situations where talents could be developed, obstacles met etc. Its a fascinating read and confirms what I read in the Seth books. The picture he got from his many patients is of souls being birthed, gaining experience of dark and light, and GROWING towards other levels, not stuck with the shoddy remains of only living one physical life.
The kid who remembered being a fighter pilot was on TV last week, and he remembered “choosing his parents,” how could this happen if TGU were just putting together some traits and attaching them to a newborn physical body?
[This refers to James Leininger, a truly fascinating case.]
I realize that as humans we have limited ability to understand the big picture and personally I don’t feel I know it all or ever will and no one COULD, but I think TGU’s ideas don’t make sense on this subject, there is too much evidence, for me anyway, for a more broad and loving idea of us each as particles of All That Is, that grow and evolve to gather massive amounts of experience without LIMITS. I wonder if TGU presented that idea of “you got 40 minutes of Earth time to figure it all out, and live with your mistakes forever” to scare the hell out of us so we wake up more
The best things in the book were the idea “there are NO outside influences” and the exercises in the end of the book, I liked those a lot.
Anyway, I had to get this off my chest as it’s been bothering to do. Thanks,
These and other dilemmas present themselves whether you believe in reincarnation or believe that there is no reincarnation. The problem stems from wrong definitions, as we said, and stems from your therefore identifying yourself with an illusion.
If you as individuals were indeed the units you often experience yourselves to be, then the primary dichotomy would be, reincarnation or none. And in either case, your fate would be inescapably bound up with the unit you experienced yourself to be. That is, if you have a life as John, what happens after death happens to John and that’s it, no matter what the result.
However, that isn’t the case. You experience yourself as John while living John’s lifetime, but as soon as the barrier between physical and non-physical is removed (that is to say, as soon as you drop the body, or “die”), you remember that the part of yourself that lived that life is only one part of a much greater whole. And it is the whole, not the individual life, that may continue to experience life in the physical. George Washington is dead and is not coming back to the physical – but the underlying being of which George Washington was a part may come back innumerable times, in innumerable forms, and the George Washington part of itself may or may not partake in the make-up of those other lifetimes.
George Washington exists in the non-physical. He may be experienced by those in the physical should you choose to do so, but that is not his reason for being. We don’t have tourist attractions here! But his mind, his person, created by a lifetime of disciplined choice, remains.
Now, if George Washington was used to create another person, that person might experience him vividly and interpret that connection as a “past life,” which indeed would not necessarily be incorrect as a way to see it. But of course that person would not be George Washington, because the physical heredity, and the total mixture of elements, and many other factors, would be different. Just as you in the body cannot step twice into the same river – neither can those outside of time-space use exactly the same materials twice. It would be as impossible as having two Tuesdays in a given week.
We hope this cleared up the confusion, but if not, or if other problems present themselves, of course you may return for another dip into the well. Be assured, like it or not, you will live forever – but the question that would repay careful thought and experience is, what do you mean, what should you mean, when you say “you”?
[Nothing is more flattering to an author than to have someone take his ideas seriously enough to argue with them! Again, Dave, thanks for taking the time.]