Wednesday, January 19, 2022
6 a.m. Switches set. Let’s continue on the subject of first life, eternal life.
You cannot reasonably expect us to give you in a few days what may require a lifetime’s study. But we can point you, and that is what we are doing. The Egyptians knew the world differently, you see, so it gave them insights the world later lost, and also prevented them from insights that other civilizations would build upon. Every culture is different, and nobody has all of the truth. But it can be liberating, at the proper time, to reconsider what you think you know, and an excellent way to do that is to figure out what another culture believed, and why they believed it. But this can be harder than it may seem.
I know. Europeans came upon the relics of the Egyptians 200 years ago, more or less, in the wake of the French military and scientific expedition Napoleon led. But that is not the same as saying that materialist Europe understood the meaning of what it was seeing.
Nor could it be expected to do, on first acquaintance.
John Anthony West, following Schwaller de Lubicz, pointed out that modern assumptions distorted what was being read, distorted even the meaning of the words we had figured out how to spell.
There is usually a translation-error factor in contacts between civilizations. Until unconscious assumptions are recognized as such, and compensated for, allowed for, the one will misunderstand the other. It’s common. That doesn’t mean the effort involved is wasted, only that it will be a longer process than expected, usually.
With all kinds of unexpected side-effects, too, like the GIs on occupation duty in postwar Japan who brought an interest in oriental religion and culture back to the West Coast when they returned, and so led to Gary Snyder and Jack Kerouac, and to Zen centers, and Yoga centers, etc. None of that was planned, it just happened.
You might find it difficult to demonstrate that none of it was planned, but it wasn’t planned in 3D, certainly.
Very funny. You know what I meant.
We did, and do. But do you know what we mean, in bringing you up short?
Just reminding us, I imagine.
Making explicit what is implicit in your statement. It connects to what we are looking at, you see.
I don’t see, not yet.
Let’s continue, then, and perhaps it will dawn on you. Ask yourself, “Why did the Egyptians do what they did – mummification, elaborate tombs, representations of 3D life including murals, artifacts, sometimes mummified pets?” Instead of searching for the answers your society provides, look at the question from the point of view we have been suggesting. That is, suppose the Egyptians saw the world – saw reality – more like we see it than like materialist 21st century scientists see it: How does it look then?
Can you just sketch it out, instead of trying to pull it out of me?
Pulling it out of you has the advantage of not seeming to speak ex cathedra.
Like that stops you any other time!
Yes, but there are some times it is advantageous and some times not.
Plausible deniability as I make it up?
Something like that. But, seriously, the process of your feeling for it in your mind assists the process – is the process, in a way – of your acquiring it from us. But there are always going to be transmission errors, and your taking responsibility for the process minimizes the canonization of error, in a way. You know you are reaching, rather than reading The Way It Is from a scroll held by the angel Gabriel.
A lot of our dialogue that seems like preliminary chit-chat is actually required, isn’t it? It’s like a fighter jabbing at his opponent, to position him for a blow from the right hand.
A somewhat violent analogy, but the “positioning” part is true enough. We don’t intend to kayo you, however. So, what is your take on it: What can you, here, now (and this goes for anyone who reads this, whenever they read it) – what can you at this moment intuit about the state of mind of the Egyptians who established the elaborate funerary rituals and practices? Allow that superstitions and elaborations will have crept in over time, as they always do: What did those who knew think they were doing?
I have had glimmerings.
Don’t try to remember what you have thought; still less, what you have read or heard. What feels right to you, at this moment, knowing what you know and guessing what you guess about the way things really are?
I think this connects with the insights we had a while ago about psychometry. I think the Egyptians felt that 3D objects extended into non-3D, and so, you might say, were as much there for them in non-3D as in the actual tomb. I don’t think they buried all that stuff, painted all those murals, inscribed all those walls with hieroglyphics, just out of piety, nor out of a superstitious belief that they would somehow be transformed into their afterlife equivalents. I think maybe they figured that, in providing the 3D objects in immediate proximity to the corpse, they were assuring that the non-3D extensions – not equivalents, but extensions – would be right there too. And mummifying the body would assure that the 3D platform that had carried that spirit around in life would also be there as a sort of beacon for its non-3D self, lest it get lost in the afterworld.
Obviously I don’t know if any of this is anywhere near the mark.
So do you think they expected the afterlife to be just like 3D, and they intended to keep living that way?
I know that’s what some archaeologists believe, but it seems too simple-minded. These were not an ignorant people, and those with tombs were not out of the ignorant strata of their society.
Then, what? Speculate.
It seems to me, they wanted to be sure to remember what 3D life was like. They didn’t want the departed soul to forget what it had been, what it had experienced. But I don’t know why they thought that was a danger, or what they hoped to accomplish by averting that danger.
You are not thinking of this in connection with Anubis.
Hmm. Anubis weighed the soul of the departed, and if its heart was bad, the soul could be (maybe would be) destroyed. You had to get by Anubis to continue to live, and you had to get by the other judges to avoid being sent back to 3D. That’s judgment and reincarnation, isn’t it? Not an either-or, but both.
Yet you know that no one repeats 3D life as s/he was: The elements mix.
No, actually, do we know that? Clearly the situation will be different, but will we necessarily be a new community, as you have been saying? Couldn’t we be judged, passed, then sent back as is? It would make more sense. The different genetic inheritance, the different locale and time, would account for differences, but this would preserve the continuity of the soul. It has always puzzled me, nagged at me, your saying we got remixed each time.
So now you see a little more clearly how it is. But state it so you don’t lose it.
It is true and not true that we are never the same person twice. There is mixture due to the inherited connections that come from birth to new parents; there is continuity due to translation from non-3D back to 3D.
The Egyptians referred to the Ka and the Ba. We suggest you look it up to see how that has been interpreted.
And – it comes to me – if Frank dies and is mummified among reminders of his life, and those 3D reminders extend into non-3D, as of course they do, then when Frank comes to reincarnate, he has at least a better chance of remembering who he had been, which in a way also means who he was, who he is.
Without saying yes or no, we’ll say that is well worth thinking about.
I’ll say. Theme today?
“Reminders.”
Our thanks as always.