Conversations September 12, 2010

Sunday, September 12, 2000

3:10 AM. Too early for coffee and in fact too early to be out of bed if my breathing would only smooth out.

Last night for the first time I lay in bed actually having a hard time going to sleep — which I rarely have — because of the thoughts swirling around, concerning the material I’d gotten yesterday in two bites. I can’t consciously remember those thoughts, but I have no doubt you all can. Shall we dance?

What, you don’t want to talk about Star Trek?

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Conversations September 11, 2010

Saturday, September 11, 2010

6 AM. We sort of went off on a tangent yesterday when we started discussing the virtues, didn’t we?

Tangent from what? Tangential to what? There are a million ways to convey what we are trying to convey, some of them seemingly irrelevant. But we can go back to where we took the turn, if you wish. Before we hared off on your particular case, we were saying that the volatile person-mind’s ringmaster is in a situation in which it naturally perceives the world as divided between self and other, yet that division has no fixed or firm boundaries. What it experiences itself to be — for as long as it considers itself to be a unit — changes, and responds to vague undefined influences.

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Conversations September 10, 2010

Friday, September 10, 2010

5:10 AM. I am still not re-reading, making notes of loose ends, noting my questions arising from the material. But even scanning the material a couple of days at a time, as I do when I post previous entries onto the blog, reminds me of things I’d forgotten. It’s surprising, repeatedly, how much material we get through in a month.

So — coffee ready — onward?

Can you remember when you’d sit down and not know if there would be anybody on the other end of the line?

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Conversations September 9, 2010

Thursday, September 9, 2010

6:15 AM. My friends?

Re-reading — scanning — the previous one or two sessions will help bring you closer to our intent at the moment. We mean this as a general principle. Even if we go off on an entirely different tangent, it will still bring you within the railroad station, even if a different train is leaving on a different track.

You guys are showing your age.

We’re showing yours! Whose mind are we rummaging through for analogies?

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Conversations September 7, 2010

Tuesday, September 7, 2010

1:15 AM. Asthma again. Well, it is September, after all. Since I’m up, you guys care to continue where we left off?

The volatility and porous nature of consciousness, and how (as well as why) the individual may be looked on as a convenient fiction.

Volatility, because no two moments of time necessarily have the same components. Porousness, because you can’t necessarily know or control who is coming in, from what level. Convenient fiction, because the features that provide continuity within a given individual are often not as strong as the things that separate the component parts.

[I realize, reading this into Dragon, that “porousness” is not recognized as a word. The word is porosity. But since the guys, as well as I, like porousness better, I guess that’s what we’ll use.]

You — not you personally, but your time, including even the most advanced “New Age” thought — have some very ungrounded concepts coexisting uneasily, adding up to a very fuzzy picture. Thus, spirit guides, past lives, ET’s both physical and non-physical, saints, possession,

Sorry, the process of iteration threw me.

Leave that, for the moment, then. The point is simple. Many concepts that don’t seem to have anything to do with one another — or to contradict one another — require merely a certain orienting principle in order for their inherent inter-relation to become clear. Such an orienting principle usually — perhaps always — requires the destruction of a previous orienting principle that prevents a new way of seeing. In this case it is the unstated and usually unconscious assumption that people are individuals, and that individuality means separate mind and body, [and] continuity as that same personality, from life to life or — if reincarnation is not in the picture — a separate destiny, be it heaven or hell or some other idea.

When you realize how greatly the idea of you as individuals depends on one way of seeing things, one consistent set of rules as to what to notice and what to ignore, the arbitrary nature of the concept becomes inescapably obvious, as we have been pointing out.

If you as a person-group comprise many strands, each of which is a person-group, and if your person-group considered as a whole forms one strand of a higher-level person-group — and if, as we have said, these relationships continue up and down the chain of being so that everything is inextricably part of everything else (as only makes sense, from our viewpoint) — there is your porousness. Your momentary consciousness holds the ring and attempts to impose a consistency. Regardless whether it succeeds largely or little or not at all, the nature of its contents does not change. Multiplicity is multiplicity. And since the effective active composition varies moment to moment, there is your volatility.

It feels like you are having a harder time of it, my being sub-par.

That doesn’t help. Notice how many background tapes are playing as opposed to your usual focused awareness? This is largely because you’re coming to this on insufficient sleep, and your breathing isn’t deep enough.

I can correct the breathing, anyway. I notice you didn’t mention [my having had] no coffee!

You can’t really afford to do that in mid-night if you are to return to sleep.

A big “if” anyway.

Not necessarily. You’ve seen, this work helps.

Yes I have, though this is something of a first, trying to talk to you as an alternative to lying there, or sitting, working on breathing. But I’m always up for something new. You were saying?

It will repay effort — for you, for anybody who reads this — if you go back over your personal experience and see if it doesn’t look different in light of these concepts. Past lives, you’ve already seen, look different. So must the guys upstairs whether named or unnamed. So do elements of telepathy. But maybe we should start with what you call robots.

Robots are your term for what we would describe either as split-off bits of consciousness or as pieces of strand-mind.

I’m muddling this, aren’t I?

Just continue as you can, quit when you must. You don’t have to do this now, and you scarcely have the energy to do so. The alternative — trying to go back to sleep — won’t necessarily be as difficult as you think.

We’ll see. I’ll try, and I’ll be back hopefully on all cylinders.

6:30 AM. Well, that’s remarkable. I got several hours of sleep, not having to fight asthma at all. How did you do that — and why not 60 years ago?

We didn’t do it, you and we did it. As a large part of you knows. Have you ever been prevented from doing something you really wanted to do?

I don’t know. I would have assumed so.

Well, as so often, we will continue to talk about the topic, using as illustration something topical.

You know — because we, and your experience, and your thoughts about the experience, which somewhat means “we” again, taught you — that a person’s health is a relationship between mental and physical factors. If they change their mental body, they may experience quick, even instant, change, but it is unlikely to persist because mental states fluctuate by their nature. If they change their physical condition, it is likely to require effort and time, but any change is likely to persist, because the body structure may be said to have an inertia to it. But just as a person with multiple personalities may have different eye color for each personality, or be able to do different feats of skill or learning in different personalities,

Lost the thread.

These are clues that can be better understood when you realize that none of you is a unit, even physically, so much as a coalition. Naturally if your health depends upon your mental and physical states, and if those states are actually the prevailing compromise among a congeries of what might seem to be smaller-scale individuals, you’re going to be at the mercy of many temporarily prevailing conditions — and, on the bright side, you’re going to have many a resource behind you, once you learn how to use them.

Yes, it’s pulling together. And you were just about to talk about robots when we broke off a few hours ago.

And that is where we could have gone then perhaps, and will go now. You taught yourself — which means, you let yourself be guided by seemingly external forces and seemingly autonomous inner forces (us) and then thought about and applied what you had been shown — you taught yourself how to deal with the physical and emotional problems of others by envisioning the forces in play as doing what they thought was right for the individual, but doing it mindlessly, repetitively, and so at last inappropriately. You learned how to reprogram those robots, and learned, through the experience of your friends as you worked with them, that not only could reprogramming stop negative behavior, it could be redirected back to positive channels.

Yes, and I have actually been forgetting that I have engaged to teach the technique in a workshop at the end of the month.

You’ll pull it together at the last moment and in the moment, as usual, and it will be fine. But our point here is to redefine your robot analogy in light of fluctuating and porous consciousness.

I got a half-glimpse of a visual image just then. A painting to do, like the original spools-and-thread painting you had me do so that Rita could understand what had been given to me right-brain fashion?

Not quite yet. In a short while — or we should say after you have a bit more data — you will have the feel of the information, and maybe then a drawing or diagram will be appropriate and helpful. No need for a painting unless it would amuse you.

Well, when I got “porous” consciousness I could start to see it — but, it’s true, not quite.

The concept is that your consciousness is both porous and fluctuating. We don’t quite see how you are going to portray both without our providing the connections.

Okay. Proceed.

You must for the moment regard your consciousness not as a thing, not as solid in any way, not as permanent. Your consciousness is not the same thing as you, any more than the volatile and temporary contents of a computer’s RAM are the same thing as the computer, or as the computer’s software, for that matter.

There is nothing permanent about a state of consciousness, and this is because it is not designed to be permanent, and could not do what it does if it were permanent. As we said, one permanent state of consciousness would be the equivalent of a computer locking up. Consciousness fluctuates. It is supposed to. It was designed to. It is in those fluctuations that it expresses the fluctuation of the forces exerted upon it from various and changing agents including external circumstances, the nature of the given moment, the effective pressure of other consciousnesses, and the effective participation of its strands and group-mind, moment to moment. If we were [presumably they meant “weren’t”] pressed for time, we would repeat this, because it is important. Indeed, in stating it here, now, we do repeat, for we have said it before.

If instead of identifying with your momentary state of consciousness, you realize that it is an interim summing-up of your life at that moment (for so it may be seen) or as the result of your past choices (for it may be seen that way, too) or as the interplay of your known and unknown inner and outer components (a third way it may be seen), you will see both how at the mercy of other forces your daily life is and how vast an array of abilities you may command merely by realizing the fact.

There is a lot packed into that paragraph, and we advise that you re-read it more than once, and wrestle with it until (in connection with your ever-helpful guys upstairs, of course) you have anchored it to your practical everyday life. Ultimately it will ground and anchor many a free-floating concept, rendering the whole more coherent and usable.

As to porousness. Again, you must let go of the idea that you are the unit you think yourself, any more than that your emotional makeup is the same at age 8 and 15 and 28 and 60. It just isn’t so, and the attempt to see as consistent and unitary what is neither can only be made by slurring over all the detail and by resolutely forgetting vastly more than you remember. And this is what is customarily done, of course, but it does not serve you.

Remember that your consciousness at any given moment is the person-mind comprising many strand-minds and participating in a group-mind. This, remember, is over-simplification, but it is complicated enough until you have anchored the concept among your other mental orienting concepts; perhaps later we can then add nuance and exception and complication.

But what is true for your person-mind is also true for the group-mind of which you are a strand-mind, and equally true for the strand-minds that make up your person-mind. Again — always — as above, so below.

Therefore all is movement, and change, and interaction — and is this not your experience of life? This porousness is why and how you do not stagnate. At one and the same time, life is freedom and fate, and it does not depend upon viewpoint in this case. That is, we are not saying that life may be viewed as freedom or fate, depending upon the point of view. We are saying, instead, it is both, always, in the same way that there cannot be an up and no down, or an inner and no outer. The two — freedom to create; being created with — are inextricably linked because the same. If you pull on a string, the string also pulls you.

Yes, we can quit again for the moment. Although this morning session is shorter than usual, when added to the middle-of-the-night session it will give quite enough for your friends to chew on as they begin their day, or whenever they come to it.

I feel like you made some real progress today, with porousness and volatility.

It won’t be the last time we will need to remind you of the concepts as organizing principles, but yes, it feels expressed.

My thanks, not least for your assistance in getting a night’s sleep.

Quite all right. Given that you consciously lay there relaxing and not letting yourself tense up, as you learned, you may also thank yourself.

Till later, then.

Conversations September 6, 2010

Monday, September 6, 2010

4:40 AM. Today is an anniversary that grows in importance to me year by year. On September 6, 1966 — 44 years ago — I made my first journal entry. This present 6 x 9 spiral bound journal book is my 81st. I do believe that the simple habit of keeping a journal has done vastly more to give my life continuity than any other thing I ever did. Other than the mechanics of keeping body and soul together, what other habit has continued for 44 years? From time to time I have tried to stop; the way I was keeping it has petered out; what I was getting out of keeping it was a mystery to me — but I kept on doing it because in a way I had to keep on, not knowing why. It was never a diary after my college years. In my year of grad school in Iowa City I began keeping it as a repository for thoughts that came to me as I did my required reading — I found that I could jot the thoughts down in the journal and then be free to continue reading without distraction. Over the years it became something of an in-house psychiatrist, or anyway someone I could tell my troubles or perplexities too. And, beginning in 1989, it became my natural medium for conversations with The Boss — my first conception of The Guys Upstairs. Something in me knew a hell of a lot more than that 20-year-old boy why it was important to buy a blank book and start keeping a journal.

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Conversations September 5, 2010

Sunday, September 5, 2010

5:50 AM. Thinking, for some reason, of “The Search For Spock” and the TV episodes of Star Trek that I have been watching (the complete set of VCRs, the gift of a friend uncluttering so as to be able to accumulate new clutter, as do we all). Watching so many TV shows of the same program, essentially one after another, makes so clear how the formula runs, and shows the central flaw in it as drama. If, every time it’s time for a commercial, it looks like it’s curtains for Kirk or Spock or the Enterprise — in order to build enough suspense to force or entice the audience to sit through the commercials and not change channels — and then of course it turns out to be (big surprise) not curtains after all…

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