The Other World

[continued from posting, July 4]

R: In Frank’s book Muddy Tracks, it seems that he was able to clearly distinguish between when he was speaking and you were speaking. When he speaks now, or when he’s in laboratory sessions, for me it’s difficult to know who’s speaking. Is this increasingly a stance for Frank?

F: No, what’s happening is, he was required to make a Copernican world-view shift first, and to do that found it either necessary or convenient – we couldn’t really be sure; it doesn’t make any difference – he found it expedient, anyway, to almost over-emphasize the difference between [him and] us, because that was the only way he could conceptualize it. But once he began realizing that we’re often speaking through him –

He initially saw it when we spoke through him to say something that was important to someone else who had to hear it from a human voice because they weren’t able to hear it inside. Once he realized that, he began seeing it more, and then he began seeing other aspects of himself — other lifetimes, as you call it — going in and going out, going in and going out, and then he began to deduce, correctly, that he does the same thing there, unconsciously usually. Then, the more he looked into it, the more it all folded in on itself and he realized, it isn’t “me” versus “them,” it’s really I/them, or it’s us, or it’s me. You know, all the distinctions blurred. Continue reading TGU session 08-08-01 (2)

[After the August 3 PREP session, Rita Warren suggested that I could do the same thing outside of the black box, merely using a free-flow Focus 27 tape. She offered to monitor a series of sessions at her house, and I gladly accepted, knowing Rita’s unique background in such work. Not only is she a Ph.D. psychologist who had a distinguished academic career, she and her husband Martin had run Bob’s lab from the time it opened in early l984 for about four years. They had worked with hundreds of subjects, keeping in mind Bob Monroe’s goal of “asking questions that would result in information that would be of value to all mankind.” Thus, they asked about such topics as consciousness, health and healing, environment and earth changes, the nature of the universe, and various spiritual and philosophical questions. But there were lots of questions she could never get satisfactory answers to: What’s it like over there? “Oh, everything’s fine. It’s hard to explain. You’ll understand when you get there,” etc. She wanted a little more substance than that, and as it turned out, TGU were the guys to give it to her.]

August 8, 2001

R: I’d like to talk directly to the gentlemen upstairs. Can you do that?

F: I can’t guarantee that I won’t be here but I’ll relay what I get. What I mean by that is that I’ll be here, but the words will just come through like from them. I don’t ever space out entirely.

R: You don’t need to space out, you can just move over a little bit, and let them speak directly to me, if that’s acceptable to them.

F: Who cares what they want?

R: I’d like to have a little more information about them, from them. About who they are, who they relate to you,

F: What would you like to know, as a starting place?

R: Are they a group, or a solo individual?

F: Why don’t you address it to them, just because it allows a little distance.

R: All right, I’d like to speak to the gentlemen upstairs and ask them to tell me a little more about themselves, whether they represent themselves as individuals or a group — Continue reading TGU session 08-08-01 (1)

Saturday, June 30, 2007
Nearly 10 a.m. awoke thinking of something worth recording here, but too many things between awakening and picking up the pen. That’s why I often do my morning’s work before I shower and shave.

So — if one of you splendid gentlemen will deign to get on the line and remind me — or set some other rabbit running — I’d be obliged as usual.

I had a stray thought that I put on the blog this morning — I used to think that what a person made of his mind — the things he learned, the connections he made — were lost when he died. It made everything seem so pointless. Realizing that the pattern of mind created by that effort survives and is there to be used recasts it in a different light entirely.

There is much more, obvious to me but probably not to others (because of just the kind of work I have been doing, it occurs to me!) and would need to be spelled out.

It’s hard to find the organizing principle that will let me spell it out, who and how this network is used. So, friends — David, if no other is more appropriate —

Continue reading A working model of minds on the other side