The Other World

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R: Well, let’s see. I’m confused here. In viewing all those possible alternatives that we chose among for this particular one we’re looking at here, you’re saying that all those choices were not only potential but they in fact occurred.

F: Exactly. They exist. Not past tense, not future tense. The whole thing is one big present. At least to us.

R: It’s very difficult to perceive things from your perspective. [laughs]

F: Well, in fact, it takes a certain skill to – It’s like a homing device, you know. We have to sort of keep a bookmark on you. [they laugh] because —

R: That’s good. That’s good.

F: You don’t ever have trouble finding us only because we find you. But if we didn’t, you couldn’t.

Now, you can extend that a little farther and say, if there weren’t the inherent tie between us – if we weren’t really all one thing – it’s difficult for us to imagine that! — but if we weren’t all one thing, how could we find each other? Continue reading TGU session 09-25-01 (2)

Rita Warren: Well, I think this is our 7^th session. I was looking back today at some of the notes and thinking we have a few leftovers I should pick up on tonight. [pause] I have understood from you gentlemen upstairs that you have a great deal of information – maybe all of the information – and our job is to suggest a focus for identifying the information by asking questions.

F: You will have to pardon us if we always answer literally what you say, because we’re so aware of slippage in communications that we don’t know any better way to do. So the way you phrased your question, we would say we have access to knowledge and we probably have access to further knowledge when you want it. All we’re trying to emphasize is, we don’t ourselves know, but we can find out. That’s the way to put it. It’s one of our usual nit-picks.

R: Okay, well, how does all this information become available to you?

F: [pause] To us the process is more or less what it is to you when you’re thinking about something without needing external resources like books or conversation. So it’s as though we’re ruminating, only we’re kind of gravitating toward the information. Don’t know a better way to put that. Continue reading TGU session 09-25-01 (1)

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R: Yes. I’ve heard two things from you here. The second one I’m hearing tonight, the first one I heard before. What I heard before was that you are aware of what will be happening to us. That you have a preview, somehow. You know before we know what’s happening. And now I’m hearing you say that you actually arrange this.

F: Both of those are true, but neither one of them is the full thing. Let’s back up a little.

You remember that all possible situations have their reality. Now that should be just mind-boggling to you, because it’s just staggering complexity. It all has its reality, and the question is, which of those will you go to? And so, looked at one way, yes we know the future because they’re all there, we can see where you’re going now. But tomorrow you might go in a different direction. In other words, we can predict the future, but you may not go there! [they laugh] But that future still exists! Continue reading TGU session 09-18-01 (2)

Rita Warren: I’d like to pick up a little bit on one of the topics we were on last time. We were talking about all the disaster issues last week, and one of the things we’re hearing lots about is the idea of evil. And I wonder if you can talk some about the idea of evil as regards human behavior.

F: Big subject.

R: Well, yes.

F: All right. As usual, we have to start a long way away. Suppose you look at the whole universe as a balanced system. Let’s look at it in electrical terms, so that it has positive and negative — for the moment we’re not talking about good being positive and evil being negative, but as positive and negative. As polarity. And every polarity has to balance out. Otherwise, there’d be something left over, you know [laughs] and it couldn’t be.

Taking the universe as a unit, its various polarities all have a positive and negative end to them. And – this is a spatial analogy, but we don’t know how to avoid it – in various localized parts of the universe, there might be more negative or more positive. And certainly the negative and positive could be intermingled, they could fluctuate, they could go back and forth. Like everything else, they form fluctuating patterns. But there’s no such thing as being able to eliminate all the negative, and have even one atom of positive more than negative. It just can’t be done. Continue reading TGU session 09-18-01 (1)

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R: Okay, let me ask this. Would the events that happened in our time and space today change the energy at your level in some ways?

F: Well, you know, we’re not surprised by any of this. We know what’s going on that hasn’t happened in your area yet. We know converging probabilities to the degree that it might as well be set, okay? So, how should it change our energies?

R: Well, I guess I’m saying that there may be, on the earth level, lots of demand for your attention today.

F: But, but, you know — how many people died? When you have 15 or 20 or 30 billion at a time, then you might start taxing our facilities. After all, World War II didn’t tax us, this isn’t going to tax us. In the sense of a drain on our attention, if that’s what you mean,

R: This would be a small event, compared to the kinds of events in your —

F: In a way, you could kill everyone on the planet on the same day, and – the mission of the planet to the side, just considering that number of people –if we had to we’d react to it. (That is not likely to happen.) Continue reading TGU session 09-11-01 (2)

[The night of the day of the terrorist attacks that coordinated the hijacking of four airplanes and destroyed three buildings in New York City as well as killing an unknown number of people.]

Rita Warren: All right. Well as you know this has been a sad day for us and we’re checking in to see if this is good thing for Frank to do a session with us tonight.

F: Good thing for him.

R: Good thing for him. All right.

F: He tends not to get in touch with this stuff.

R: Meaning an emotional barrier to it, or – ?

F: He tends not to be in touch with emotions responding to [inaudible] Continue reading TGU session 09-11-01 (1)

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R: Well then, one of the things that we think about is how to improve our world for the people in it, for the masses of individuals in it. And we think about that in terms of children, and how children’s lives are led, and how it impacts them and doesn’t, and millions of us have lived our lives trying to make a better world, if you will. And I’m hearing you say well of course, it makes sense that one does that with children. But the whole goal of making a better world doesn’t seem to make any sense from the perspective that you’re speaking.

F: Well, let’s be careful. We’ll say this carefully. We’ll try to say this carefully. Your trying to make a better world is good work, because of what you’re choosing. But – better world implies that you know how to make a better world. And Continue reading TGU session 09-04-01 (2)