Sunday, October 6, 2019
Different actors play different roles at different times.
We have seen that as it applies to the human drama, but you are meaning it in a larger context.
Indeed we are. But, it is slippery. Rather than you “taking dictation,” as you say, this time we would like you to sit with the feeling, the not-thought-but-logical-nonverbal-perception, so that you may get the overall sense of it. Then express it and we’ll see where we get to and how we do.
[Two minute pause.] I think it is the thin edge of the wedge, but we’ll start here and see.
We are accustomed to identifying with the human body, personality, identity, including ancestry, affiliations, associations, resonances of character and interests, etc. It’s what we are, after all. But we tend to forget that it isn’t only what we are. Beneath the compound spirit that has become human is the more universal spirit that does not change with our 3D experiences, is not shaped by repeated pairings of physical heredities. We are the unchanged thing as much as we are the shaped, created, self-modifying thing we know ourselves to be.
In the same way, the 3D drama may be considered both as story and as actors playing roles in that story. Only, the “actors” include all kingdoms, especially including the animal kingdom. So at any given performance, the cast may include certain energies playing humans, but at other performances, different energies may be playing the humans. It isn’t as if the universe is divided into humans and second-class citizens. It is divided into the human experience and all other experience, but that is not the same thing as saying that only one class of actor gets to play human. It means, only one group at any given time.
I’m not sure I made that spectacularly clear, but it’s a start. Your critique?
As you say, it’s a start.
Laughing. All right, where do we go from here?
But we did not mean it satirically. It’s a start. That may be said of anything we have ever succeeded in conveying. Here is our continuation of your interpretation of what you intuited of our intended message. (And if you will re-read that sentence, you will have an enhanced understanding of the difficulties inherent in translation.) Some people, looking at a scheme that positions humans in the center of the 3D world, will object that this is nothing but collective human egotism. So, to demonstrate our point, let us turn the focus from humans to, say, the bee.
The 3D world from a bee’s perspective has been developed and maintained specifically to provide a nurturing environment for bees to exist, including a means of nutrition that also accomplishes their purpose in the larger scheme of things. Does a bee need to be aware of the place in the scheme of things occupied by whales, tigers, termites, jellyfish, oak trees, rain clouds, metallic ores? It does not. We need not posit nor deny that bees might become aware of such things to state confidently that such knowledge is not essential to it maintaining its bee-ness. Similarly, humans. You can see human “purpose” (though each of you may have a different piece of the puzzle, and some of the pieces may be being held backwards), but you cannot see the world from a non-human point of view.
Isn’t that precisely what we’re trying to do here?
No. We are trying to convey it as an abstract idea, just as you might grasp the conditions inside the atmosphere of the planet Jupiter, but you can’t experience the reality, as opposed to an abstraction. The bee isn’t wrong (and neither is the human) in seeing itself and its species as the center of its world and as a vital link in the scheme of things. But it is equally true that the bee is a role as much as an essence, and that bees as a species are a role, are a function, quite as much as they are an independent existence. They are part of an ecology, after all. Neither bees nor humans (nor everything else) can live in isolation. When an individual bee dies, does it go to bee-heaven? Alternatively, does the spark that animated the flying creature disappear rather than changing existence? Does the bee reincarnate in an attempt to become a better bee?
As with the bee, continue the analogy to trees, daffodils, pond slime, bacteria – to the animating principle behind power spots, to the intelligence that governs subassemblies such as muscle-groups or nervous systems or specialized organs.
And we can generalize much farther than that: the intelligences that form and are embodied (so to speak) in created machinery or even in dwellings. In short, the living animating souls, call them, behind and within even what you think of as “inanimate” material. This, not to mention particular animals such as pets that form close symbiotic bonds with humans and across species, such as, for instance, cats and dogs in the same household, or canaries, or whatever.
I gather that this boils down (at least for the moment) to the fact that while the human role is unique, the spirit that plays the human role is not.
At any given time it is, but yes, otherwise, not. The world is not divided into officers and other ranks.
Why humans are different (from “Life More Abundantly”)
Saturday, October 5, 2019
Yesterday’s sounded like it was all about sex but it was actually about human uniqueness, wasn’t it?
Yes it was. In your day and time, many people are apt to underrate the fact that humans are not only animal and not only spiritual. An example like sex comes at this from an unexpected angle, allowing some, at least, to reexamine their assumptions.
We would ask people to ask themselves why they have resistance to the concept that human intelligence is qualitatively different from that of the animals around them. We think you will find that the political stance that denies such an obvious difference stems from cultural causes; it is not an inevitable conclusion.
I think it is a reaction against the dominionist view that in practice says that only humans matter.
It says worse than that. It says in effect that only certain human activities matter, mostly economic. It arises from reading “dominion over the beasts” as referring to relative worth rather than an assurance of safety and a mandate of stewardship. The Bible never says destroy the earth, it says subdue it, as in, put it to use. It doesn’t say the things of the 3D world are there to be destroyed; it says they are all there for humans to use. It doesn’t guarantee that you will use them well or wisely, but only a fool would assume that an ecology had been created for the purpose of giving humans something to destroy. However, in revolting against this view, it is easy to fall into complementary errors, and many people do.
Well, to make their argument for them, as far as I understand it, we see today that the dumb (mute) animal kingdom is actually filled with active intelligent creatures who can learn, reason, communicate, use tools, play – in short, who exhibit every single characteristic that at one time or another were thought to characterize humans.
Where are your animal economic or scientific or philosophical or religious or sociological enterprises? Where are their equivalent of libraries? (They needn’t be in the form of physical books, of course.) Nor do we refer in any of this to a technological development. The fact is, an obvious difference is escaping people who have an emotional stake in remaining unconvinced.
Not surprising, because it is an invisible and unmeasurable difference.
That is correct, and that is our point:. It isn’t that the other animals do not extend into non-3D, nor that they are not inherently as alive and conscious as all the elements of the 3D world. It would be impossible. One does not derive “dead” matter from living materials except in the sense of a disconnection of the non-3D from the 3D when the living being “gives up its spirit.”
Animals talk, count, build, play, etc., just as you said. But do they pray together? Do they discuss abstract things? Do they exhibit purposive behavior in the directions humans do? They do not, for a very simple reason that is not so simple to convincingly explain: They are inherently different, or rather, humans are.
I grasp the overall direction of the argument to be made. But the examples shade off into ambiguity. Whales and dolphins, for instance.
The confusion in your mind arises because of gradations of individuality among various species. Cats are inherently more individual than sheep, for instance; but this is social behavior, not a difference in individuality as it may appear. The differences between human and animal are not merely social; they are inherent. And the situation is complicated because (a) things are changing, (b) the “human only” exception was never “human only” except insofar as humans did not know how actively aware their fellow animals are.
To clarify.
a) Things are changing. Animal species are evolving over time, as they always have. Sometimes they “advance,” sometimes revert, but change is never at an end. So as other primates learn sign language, for instance, their ability to conceptualize and deduce and in general employ their inherent intelligence will change. As birds observe human activity, their own abilities may morph. And so on. No scheme of characterization remains accurate forever; things change.
b) The “human only” argument was always based on inadequate information and a too parochial view of reality. What did “scientific” man know of the way whales communicate across vast distances? What did he know of social interaction even among plants and insects, let along mammals? However, the fact that humans are not the only species in active and potentially continuous communication with the non-3D does not mean it is not an undetected phenomenon.
Humans experience themselves in a way different from the vast majority of the animal kingdom, and this difference is important, regardless whether one or more other species may have it as well.
But, is it not possible that in fact all animals have it, and our exception is no exception at all?
You don’t mean exception, you mean uniqueness, and no, it isn’t possible. Yes, everything is connected, but no, not every specialized tool is designed to do everything. Where are the literary societies set up by polar bears? You might as well expect to find them among trees or mountain rock. Remember first that all animals are more individual in soul than plants, if only because the conditions of animal life require greater individual stewardship of its own life. So, every animal is going to be part individual, part group-mind. That is not the distinction to be made between human and animal.
The essential difference is that humans are in 3D to shape themselves by their choices in a deliberately restricted environment, and nothing else in that environment is there for that same purpose, but is there to help provide the ecology of the process. Whitman was right that animals do not weep for their sins, but not perhaps for the reason he assumed. Start thinking that the 3D is provided for humans, and that it is not provided for its own sake but for the sake of non-3D purposes, and you will begin to come out of the woods without reverting either to scientific or religious dogma.
Human sexual experience (from “Life More Abundantly”)
Friday, October 4, 2019
Mineral, vegetable, animal, celestial, with humans bridging the animal and celestial kingdoms. Your experience of life ought to illustrate the bridging. Human sexual experience, for instance, always has a sort of embarrassment connected to it, no matter how much delight or sensation or emotion is involved. We suggest that this is because of the inherent conflict of animal and celestial nature that is human.
Do we in fact know that everybody’s sexual experience includes embarrassment? And what do you mean by the word? I take it you mean that we are embarrassed, in describing it to others, that we were overcome by sexual passion? Yet that doesn’t seem quite right. So what do you mean?
This isn’t something you have paid a lot of attention to – as an individual, as a culture – but it is true nonetheless.
Sex in the West seems supercharged with expectation – unrealistic expectation, in my opinion. Sexual union is supposed to provide transcendence; it is supposed to be the important thing in life; it is, as we all know, used to sell everything because it has been so hyped. But it isn’t that way everywhere. I don’t see that the West’s experience of sex can be used as a guide to a universal human generalization.
We say only this. Humans come to sex in a way they do not come to any other experience. Furthermore, they experience it in ways entirely different from other members of the animal kingdom. And it is in that difference that the learning may be found.
Sex is
• procreation, everywhere, but humans – only – separate the act from the result.
• unitive, bringing two people as close as people can come to each other, yet it may also be the opposite, objectifying one or both rather than celebrating personality and essence.
• instinctive and universal, expressing in a range from heterosexual to homosexual to more or less isolated. What is “normal” is so broad a spectrum of feelings, behaviors, activities, as to be incapable of being reduced to rules, though people do perforce.
• disruptive unless severely or naturally channeled. In societies with ineffective or inconsistent taboos, sexual energy may overflow and disrupt everything around them. When sex sells breakfast cereals, or fuels the news cycle, or enters into people’s semi-conscious thought on a continual basis, — well that is your society, you know what it is like. Societies with few sexual taboos, or conversely, with powerful and effective taboos, may not generate so much steam, or may channel it in some other direction.
I think there is a tremendous pretense in our society about sex. Guys pretend it’s all they care about, except when it’s time to watch a football game, or to play the stock market, or to get involved in politics or pursue any of a whole lot of interests. There’s a big disconnect between the part sex actually plays in our lives, as opposed to the part we assume it plays.
Do you suppose elephants or lions or housecats or dolphins experience the same thing? Certainly they procreate. Certainly some species observe great fidelity between mates, while others may be entirely polyamorous. Certainly sexual norms vary among species and within species. But where other than in the human kingdom (if we may call it that) is sex disruptive and variant by sub-groups within the species?
I’m no biologist, but I’d say, nowhere.
We began by mentioning embarrassment. Can you imagine animals being embarrassed by having to acknowledge that they were overcome by sexual passion?
I’m still not sure that is the human response.
The word isn’t quite right, but we don’t know a better one. We will have to circle the subject to get across what we mean, unless you can intuit and translate our meaning.
I get that you mean more like a lack of naturalness. Some people brag, some deny, some feel guilt, some want it to be only one thing, only sensation, say, or only romance, or only whatever their preconceived definition of sex is.
So, take a Hemingway, an acutely sensual man, enjoying sex as a physical activity. Yes, as an acutely romantic man, in another mood sex might seem to him an affirmation of transcendent love. And as a man acutely sensitive to the non-physical world that interpenetrated the physical world, sex might transport him: “la gloria,” as he expressed it; the earth moving out from beneath the lovers; the act – described in some places by him as it was never described before or after — as an energy phenomenon rather than as the mechanics of sexual attraction, manipulation, and gratification.
Yes, I’ve seen all that in his life and work.
Well, think how complicated it is, to live among such contradictory feelings, conceptions, impulses, understandings, longings. And all this is entirely without reference to any given societal norms. It isn’t about regulation or “forbidden love” we are speaking.
Now, remember Hemingway in a different context talking of aficionados discussing their aficion for bullfighting as if it were a shameful shared secret. That sense of a shameful shared secret is close to what we meant by embarrassment.
I’m very much aware, in all this, of knowing only the male end of the spectrum. Is it so for females?
What have we said that applies only to one and not the other?
Well, I don’t know if women brag or are embarrassed or are transported or are conflicted in the way you are indicating.
Then you haven’t been paying much attention to the novels you read or the movies you watch or the biographies and histories you have gone through. Taken as a whole, patterns emerge.
Yes, I suppose so.
Now here is our point: Only among humans is sex this complicated, because only among humans is sex having to bridge so wide a gap within the nature of the individuals and within the species.
Because we are half in the celestial kingdom?
Because your consciousness is half in the celestial kingdom. Bear in mind, everybody and everything is in all kingdoms as in all dimensions, and for the same reason. But one’s self-definition, and, more, one’s self-recognition, or call it one’s experience of life, defines the boundaries one sets up to shape such experience of life.
We experience meaning according to how we limit our awareness of it.
Yes, that’s more or less it, remembering that the limitation is an unconscious process, seen from the 3D point of view.
If I get it right, this discussion of sex was mainly to have us experience how humans are different from the rest of the animal kingdom.
And from the celestial kingdom. You will remember the sons of the gods being tempted by the beauty of the daughters of man. There was meaning behind those scriptural words. It wasn’t just soap-opera. But enough for the moment. If you wish to copy an example of Hemingway’s descriptions of sex, you can find one easily enough, and you can do so far more easily that most of your readers. However, it isn’t required.
[From For Whom the Bell Tolls, Chapter 13:
[“For him it was a dark passage which led to nowhere, then to nowhere, then again to nowhere, once again to nowhere, always and forever to nowhere, heavy on the elbows in the earth to nowhere, dark, never any end to nowhere, hung on all time always to unknowing nowhere, this time and again for always to nowhere, now not to be borne once again always and to nowhere, now beyond all bearing up, up, up, and into nowhere, suddenly, scaldingly, holdingly all nowhere gone and time absolutely still and they were both there, time having stopped and he felt the earth move out and away from under them.
[“Then he was lying on his side ….”]
Only partial views (from “Life More Abundantly”)
Thursday, October 3, 2019
We are describing the celestial kingdom in the context of a scheme to describe the boundaries and potentials of the 3D part of the world. The celestial kingdom may be said to comprise energies rather than objects. And this too requires careful sorting out.
Bearing in mind that in 3D what we call energy is what also manifests as matter.
There is a practical reason for considering matter and energy separately, just as there is a reason to bear in mind their underlying continuity. Matter may be merely slowed-down bound energy, in essence, but after all, energy itself is a sort of slowed-down form of reality, as is all the 3D. So, to remember that matter and energy share the same underlying reality is perhaps less helpful than you might think: They still must be considered separately to be understood.
What I get as analogy is that a fox and a dove are both animals, but they are better understood in their fox-ness and their dove-ness than merely in their shared animal-ness.
Any level of distinction may be appropriate at a given time and inappropriate at a different time, even though these distinctions remain true at all times.
We are turning the focusing knob on the telescope/microscope.
Focus is always required, and will come about by your choice or by default.
So when we say that the celestial kingdom deals with energy patterns rather than with physically observable objects such as animals and trees and rocks, remember that all four categories are necessarily physical and non-physical; all four manifest in 3D but exist in all dimensions. There is no such thing as a creature or being or manifestation that exists only in 3D. Like trying to be in height and width but not in length, it is not possible; the idea is a misunderstanding. But within that shared condition exist all the gradations that you experience, and many that you do not.
As the mineral kingdom consists of a consciousness limited in extent and in range of manifestation, and the vegetable kingdom and animal kingdom the same only with different boundaries, so the celestial kingdom. That is, there is less “important v. non-important” than you may think. Is the fender on a car less important than the bumper, or the hood, or the window? It depends on the context of the inquiry. Is your arm less important than your leg?
As our focus changes, the relative importance of what we focus on appears to change.
“Appears to” is right. A whole is the sum of its parts. Remove a part and you have either an incomplete whole or a whole differently defined. Context is everything in making distinctions. That’s why distinctions may be so misleading.
“Make a distinction, make an error.” Isn’t that what the Buddha said?
If he did not or did, you can see the sense of the saying.
Seems like today is all preliminaries to saying something but not really getting around to saying it.
That appearance is created by your focus.
Oh, very good! Yes, I get it. I am expecting one thing and when I get something different, I tend to say “That isn’t as important as what I expected.”
Precisely – and experiencing it, and understanding that you were experiencing it – is as good a way as we know to let that understanding acquire a context.
So were you doing it deliberately?
Not per se. We take advantage of whatever situation manifests. So do you.
In 3D life, you mean?
Yes, in general. Also in these conversations, specifically. You don’t think of response being taking advantage of an opportunity, but what else is it? You can’t respond to what isn’t front and center; you respond to what is, no matter how hidden or indirect the connection may be. Your response in turn shapes our response to your response. It is a natural progression. Ask any teacher: The student’s expressed grasp of the material shapes the teacher’s next move.
So we’re going to defer further description of the celestial kingdom’s properties until next time?
Is that what you think we are doing?
Well, yes. We didn’t get any further in the subject, as opposed to the process of understanding. Did we?
To some degree, that is a distinction without a difference. If we are explaining how to focus the telescope/microscope, are we avoiding describing the view, or are we enabling you to see for yourself rather than having to rely on someone else’s description?
Still –
All right, we do understand. Then take this much: The celestial kingdom could be called the energetic, or the invisible, or the spiritual kingdom just as well, and each of those labels would highlight one aspect and obscure others. To call it the energetic kingdom would focus on things like ley lines and portals; “invisible” would focus on its existence beyond the sensory apparatus and its extensions that humans can apply; “spiritual” would focus on its close connection with the non-3D end of the 3D/non-3D spectrum. Each of these is true; none is the truth.
There isn’t any “the” truth. Or, let’s say, we’re never in a position to see it.
“Position” is the idea that tells you why you can’t. Anything can be really known only when you can see it from all sides at once, and from no side. Any standing-point imposes perspective, and perspective is always limited, persuasive, and misleading. So yes, in 3D you are never in position to be in all-positions, or in no-position, and so you can get only partial views.
Forming a group mind (from the novel I am working on)
[I was re-reading the novel I am currently writing, to keep the rhythm of it, and this excerpt seemed to call out to be shared, for various reasons. Our ILC groups, for one thing, should find this interesting.]
Chapter Nine: A Wider View
“All right,” George said. “Let’s all get comfortable.”
Dinner over, dishes done, they were again sitting around the table, using it as connector. George had Eddie turn on the tape recorder. “Ready? All right, let’s center ourselves. Moving inward, releasing any distracting thoughts and associations. We are here, we are now. We are centered on this time and place.”
He let the energy clarify for a few moments. “We are centered on this time and place, and centered on each of us as we share this time and place.”
Again he paused, waiting for the energy to align. “We center on this time and place, and on each other in this moment, and on the shared presence within us of the monk called Joseph.”
Ceasing to speak, he established a silence that was more than a mere absence of sound. Like the other three, he sank into an inner place that had no words. After another few minutes, he emerged again. “Eddie, you seem to be the conduit here. Can you see how to proceed?”
They waited.
Eddie said, “I’m getting a sense that we aren’t deep enough. Somebody has something in mind for us, I think, but whatever it is, we need to go deeper.”
“All right, let’s do that. This time, this place.” Again they concentrated on an internal stillness. After a moment or two: “Eddie, when you feel so moved –.”
Eddie’s face was closed in concentration. He nodded, but said nothing and made no other movement. They all centered on maintaining an inner silent connection, waiting for direction.
“It’s – I am going to try to let Joseph speak. I think that’s what’s going on.”
They waited.
“Joseph, if you are wanting to communicate with us, you will know we are willing to be of service. I offer you the use of my mind and voice. Speak to us.”
A very brief pause. “Okay, I think I can feel him. He’s saying – well, I guess this is coming through me, rather than –. No, wait, okay, I get that. He’s telling me – not in words, you understand, I’m getting a knowing – he’s saying there isn’t the difference between him and me that I am assuming, so the contact won’t look like I assume it would. You know? He’s more like my own thinking, than like somebody else talking to me.”
They were all accustomed to these sessions. They knew not to answer rhetorical questions or comment on descriptions or indicate that they understood what was being said: not if it would interrupt the flow.
“We – we are still thinking about it wrong, and our ideas about what it is are interfering with what could be done. What they want done. Almost, what has to be done. A sense of urgency there.”
A pause. “I get that it is very important that we all keep focusing. We will do this together or we won’t be able to do it at all. But – what? What is it you want us to do?”
A longish pause.
“We are each a part of Joseph. He is a part of each of us. He is a part of others, too, of course, but the fact that we are the ones right here and now is important somehow, it makes – sort of a unit out of the four of us – five, I guess, if you count Joseph as one. Yes, that’s what he is trying to get across: We are all part of one thing, in a real sense, not just some abstract idea. Joseph, CT, Regina Marie, George, me – we together are forming one thing right here and now, and if we can fully allow that thought, we can – can what? – can move to another level, I guess you’d say. We have a chance to experience ourselves differently but we have to – open the way for it.”
George, softly: “How are we thinking wrong about it?”
A short pause. “It isn’t thinking, exactly, more like feeling. You need to feel that you aren’t what you have always felt yourself to be. Feel my presence as a part of you.”
(It was only later, when they listened to the recording, that they noticed Eddie shifting from identifying as Eddie to identifying as Joseph. At that moment, they were in the flow, and the perspective shift was something that had become very familiar to them, first-hand and second-hand, over many years of practical experimentation.)
Silence, as they attempted to feel Joseph’s presence within them.
“It will be easier,” Eddie’s voice told them, “if instead of holding an idea of what is happening, you cast back to a time when you experienced Joseph knowingly. Yes?” A pause. “And how do we do that? I get, the feeling of a monk observing our everyday life, the strangeness of it to him.”
Nobody spoke, concentrating. If they had spoken, they might have wondered, aloud, if the four of them would have experienced him in the same way. George and Regina Marie had been raised Catholic. CT and Eddie, though nominal Protestants, had been raised without any active sense of a non-3D presence underlying the world. The silence protected them from distracting thoughts like these.
Regina Marie said, “This is very familiar to me, this presence. I have felt it, though I did not think of it as male.”
“Male or female is not relevant here,” Eddie’s voice said. “You are each of you masculine, each of you feminine, and the proportions within you vary according to the moment and the situation, have you not noticed? You are less constant, less consistent, than you think yourselves. In any given moment, what you think of as ‘you’ changes, as one or another strand emerges into prominence for that moment. Usually this is not evident to you, because you identify with each moment’s feeling, and so do not observe the fluctuations within yourself.” A pause. “What is important here is that you remember the feel of the connection. Sink into that. Or, let’s say, rise into it.”
The tape unit continued to record silence as the four of them continued to concentrate.
“Yes, I see it,” CT said. “You have been with me all along, I see. Only – you are so much a part of me, there isn’t much use in thinking of you as different.”
“There is a use,” Eddie’s voice said. “It is very much a matter of how a man thinks in his heart, that is what he is. Did you think Jesus meant, Don’t pretend to be what you aren’t? Or, well, yes, that is what he meant, but he also meant, for those who were able to hear him, that how you think about yourself helps determine what your limits are going to be.”
CT was nodding.
George said, “Sounds like we all are in the same place now.”
“You are right to think that you must not allow this new view to overwhelm other insights you will have come to over many years. But a close connection with a common thread will open up new possibilities.”
A very brief pause, almost imperceptible. “Let us now take the next step.”
.2.
Again the quiet anticipation, the waiting for a drop of water to disturb the still surface. Again, a state very familiar to each of them, from long years of practice at maintaining an active consciousness without specific content. They were prepared to wait for as long as it took for the alignment of factors invisible to them.
(“We on a conscious level are not in charge of the process,” CT had told them long ago. “We can provide the necessary conditions by our willingness and our acquired skills, but beyond that, we must be willing to settle for holding the space.” He had said this many times, beginning with his book Extraordinary Potential. But this often met resistance. Many who eagerly responded to his argument that they could change their experience of mental states were less receptive to hearing limits to what could be done by willpower alone.)
Joseph, coming through Eddie’s mind, using Eddie’s voice: “Until this moment you have lived your lives in the only way open to you. Within that way were many gradations, some more conscious, some less. Hear this now: Your life henceforth will be bounded differently. This is not an improvement; it is not an achievement; it is not a skill nor an acquisition nor a gift. It is life in a new form and so you cannot expect it to be familiar or comfortable. You will need to expand to fill your new possibilities, even while carefully conserving your present individual state of being.”
CT, quietly: “This is not yet clear.”
“No, of course it is not. As you have experienced, new orientations come only at the price of initial confusion. What wells up within you from the deeper consciousness will have an inhuman overtone, often phrased in pompous, inflated language: That cannot be helped. Your individual conscious localized awareness requires time and familiarity to become able to synchronize with newer patterns. You know this, even as we know this, but knowing about a necessary phase does not in itself provide one the ability to avoid having to go through it.”
They waited.
“Hear this. This is not continuation, nor modification, nor addition, nor alternation, nor alternative. This is a new state of being you are called to enter into. Do not expect to experience it as anything less than a redefinition. This not our command, nor our desire, nor even our accustomed comfortable expectation. It is the straightforward expression of the truth we call you to live.”
“All right,” CT said. “To the extent we are able, certainly we are willing. We are gathered here in trust.”
George added: “In trust, and expectation, and willingness to be of service.”
Eddie’s voice said, “We recognize the trust and the willingness – and one factor more, the first essential.”
“Love,” Regina Marie said. “We are gathered in love.”
“As you will shortly see, in the absence of love, you could not proceed. We could not proceed.” A moment’s silence, while the tape recorder spools silently rotated. “You will bear in mind, change requires loss if it is to be able to provide gain. This is not a test of character, but a necessity of the process.”
George: “As we move toward the West, we move farther from the East.”
“Yes. Life is vastly larger than anyone’s conception of life. No one individual can encompass all of life. At certain periods, in order to be able to grasp a new concept, you must first release other aspects, perhaps aspects you hold closely.”
Sensing them at the verge of restlessness, Eddie’s voice said, “We proceed. Will you each take the hands of those beside you, and lightly maintain this contact. That is, hold hands in your circle around the table, and do not let go. Be sure that your arms are comfortably supporting the contact, so that no background discomfort results.”
Regina Marie reached out to CT on one side of her and George at the other. Each of the men reached out to Eddie.
“Now. We need you to bear in mind, this comes from beyond you and yet from within you. You will experience this by way of what you call ‘each other’ and also by what you are thinking of as Joseph, as a shared common strand within. Therefore be prepared.”
(They might have asked: Be prepared for what? But, as Eddie said later, what good could words have done?)
Eddie’s voice said, “CT, begin making a statement, whatever comes to mind, even if you do not know how you will finish your thought. George and Regina Marie will interrupt you, and then will interrupt each other, as we indicate, or as they feel impelled, and you in turn will interrupt them when you yourself feel moved to do so. Begin, and we will do our best to guide the process.”
“Very well,” CT said. “I’m sure we all approach this opportunity you –“
“Regina Marie. Continue.”
A very short pause. “We appreciate the opportunity, trusting that you have our best interests at heart. We proceed in faith, in light of –“
“George.”
Promptly: “Our faith is rooted in experience. We have learned to live in trust, and we have never been disappointed.”
“CT.”
A moment’s blankness. “You are escorting us on a long journey. I feel that much. If it has taken –“
“George.”
A pause. “If it has taken this long for us to get to this part of a new beginning, it must be a long –“
“CT. Continue your thought.”
“Yes, that is where I was going. It must be a very long way we have to go. It feels like I have been on the road so long al–“
“Regina Marie.”
“I can only conclude that you are altering us somehow by this process. I was raised that it is rude to interrupt. Yet –“
“George.”
“Ah, but this isn’t interrupting, is it? It is closer to finishing each other’s sentences, each other’s thought. And that suggests that we’re oiling the wheels somehow.“
George stopped but Eddie’s voice did not indicate that another should begin, and no one felt moved to step in. They sat in silence and the tape recorder’s reels revolved.
“Now,“ Eddie’s voice said. “This, that you feel: Trust that the others are feeling it no less.“ They glanced at each other, George, Regina Marie, CT, and then they turned their eyes to Eddie. “Sink into the feeling. Rise into it. Trust the feeling, it is not delusion. Now, working carefully, walking on eggshells, carry on, learning to converse within the shared awareness you are feeling. As you learn the trick, you will see there is no need for interruption. We will withdraw from Eddie’s operative consciousness so that he may participate. When you arrive at the next stage, you will know, and we will proceed from there.”
.3.
A receptive minute, as they looked around at each other, still connected by the touch of each other’s hands.
“Not sure what we’re doing, here,” Eddie said.
“It will emerge,” CT said. “At least, I am confident that it will.”
“That is what Joseph promised, anyway,” George said.
Regina Marie said nothing, staying in the space.
After a moment, CT said, “I get the impression that we are being prodded to recognize the quality of the moment. I imagine we have all felt it before.” The others nodded, words seeming almost disruptive. “Then, this has to be a redefinition of some sort.” Again, nods rather than words. “A different way of interpreting something we have become familiar with.”
(The discussion that followed cannot be understood if seen – as it usually would be seen – as an alternation of individual views. Think of it, rather, as a central swirl of interaction, added to by this or that person’s contribution at any given point. Later, when they listened to the tape, Eddie was to say that the image that came to his mind was of ice cream ingredients mixing in a tub, the mixing forming patterns that gradually gelled into place, thus freezing a momentary pattern into something more permanent. “More relatively permanent,” George had said, and Eddie had accepted the modification.
(In order to give you a feeling of the change they experienced, it seems better to reproduce a sense of the movement without identifying who said what, so that in this report, as in that event, emphasis will move to what was said, rather than who said it. A small change, perhaps initially disorienting, but necessary. Also, for ease of understanding, much awkwardness and many side trails and dead ends are silently eliminated. This was their first attempt, after all. Initial attempts at anything are likely to be laced with dead ends and awkwardness. For the same reason – easing understanding – we silently elide many pauses as well, some quite lengthy.)
“We have been looking to create a joint mind. I had always thought of it as me contacting a group.”
“No, it is more like me talking to myself.”
“I suppose we all have these voices in our heads.”
“Oh yes! A running commentary!”
“Back seat driving.”
“Not to mention, sometimes endless nagging, carp, carp, carp, all negative.”
“But sometimes very supportive, saying to me, ‘You can do this.’”
“Yes, and sometimes saying, you shouldn’t do this.”
“Maybe this is what the church called guardian angels?”
A pause.
“I get the idea that conscience is more like a ship’s pilot, saying ‘Rocks over there, clear sailing in this direction, weather is building, you might want to reef your sails.’ But I guess most people think, Traffic cop.”
“Sometimes it’s saying, ‘Brace yourself, we’re going to hit the rocks, and nothing to be done about it.’”
“That too.”
A pause.
“I always hear that all is well in my world and in the larger world, and that there is nothing to fear.”
They sat absorbing that.
“I think there must be many voices, like listening to people arguing something out. One says, ‘In my experience, this.’ Another says, ‘My experience says that.’ And we get caught in the middle.”
“Well, ‘caught’? For that matter, ‘in the middle’? Maybe it’s more like we are the sum of all the points of view.”
A silent moment.
“Maybe so. That would make sense of something I have observed. Sometimes I am torn among all these voices, and I think there’s something to be said for all of them, they all deserve a voice. And yet at the same time I have the feeling that it is up to me to decide which point of view to adopt.”
“Even though, deliberately deciding to adopt one view is to do violence to the truth of the others.”
“Yes, exactly. And yet it still seems necessary!”
A pause as they waited for something to emerge. (Already, though they didn’t quite notice it until later, they had begun to function more as one unit with cooperating pieces than as different units cooperating.)
“I get that we are here to choose.”
“Yet –?”
“We have all heard that, over many years. But now I am getting that we choose not so much by logic or even by emotion as by what we are.”
George, from a sudden slight distance: “”Yes. Say more about that.”
The others registered the slight change in the energy, but as they did not resist it or concentrate on it, George’s energy returned to the group it had momentarily emerged from.
“More about choosing by what we are?” A pause. “Every moment is a choice-point, I guess. We are always choosing.”
“We are pulling ourselves into this future or that future.”
“Yes. Yes, that’s a good way to look at it. We pull ourselves along by our choices –”
“– like climbing a wall of rocks on a mountainside –”
“Yes. We choose this or that, and our path is set for the next moment’s choice.”
“Maybe we go back and retrace our steps, but even that is choosing.”
“And every choice defines us somehow. Not quite sure what that means.”
“I think you are saying, we become quite different versions of ourselves, depending upon what we choose. Every choice builds upon who we created ourselves to be by prior choices.”
A pause.
“But then, these voices. They are definite enough, individual enough. Should we consider them to be past lives?”
“You mean, threads within us, like Joseph?”
“I don’t say it is so, I pose the question.”
They considered it, not creating thought but holding themselves receptive to whatever might surface.
“I don’t get any sense that the voices represent something finished and ended. They seem as alive as I am.”
“Maybe that is the point. Maybe our choosing in the moment affects their continued choosing.”
“Outside of 3D, you think? Or, maybe in their 3D lives?”
“Rewriting what they lived, you mean?”
“I don’t know. The thought was out there, and I was moved to voice it.”
There was much more in this first experience, but perhaps this is enough to give a sense of the transition. Before the tape ran out – with a “click” that seemed startlingly loud – they had absorbed, by experience, what they needed to do to consciously participate in a group mind. But then – and George voiced it – there arose the question of how they were to proceed in the future. The same thought came to them all, and after Eddie flipped the tape, they looked to Regina Marie. “I gather that you are to lead us,” George said.
“Yes, I received the same impression. However, I have no idea what I am expected to do.”
“Well let’s ask, shall we?” George glanced at Eddie, and Eddie set the tape unit to recording again.
.4.
Regina Marie was not by nature an assertive person. She much preferred the background to the spotlight. But her father had often stressed to her, as she was growing up, that it was important to accept whatever legitimate obligations the moment may bring. “One does first what the situation requires, not what one’s preference would be.” How many times had she heard him say that? And whenever he heard her doubt herself, he would repeat to her that each person is given certain gifts at birth. “We are expected to employ them, develop them, and not be like the unworthy servant who buried his talent, out of fear of being unable to use it properly or profitably.” And (in order to maintain a proper balance), he had often reminded her that gifts were to be employed with humility, in that they were gifts rather than things earned. “But,” she had once argued, “perhaps we earned such gifts in prior lives. Perhaps what we are today is the reward earned previously.” Her father had smiled and said, yes, perhaps so, but in that case, surely the pride of accomplishment attached to that prior life, not this one. (Not that Henri du Plessis believed in “past lives” as a concept.)
Very well, she thought to herself, this is where the moment has brought us. We will presume that the powers we cannot see know what they are doing. She looked at each of the three men in turn, and she, and they, enjoyed a quiet moment of affection and trust and expectation. She, and they, waited for whatever would come.
“We are expected to find our own way,” she said at last. “I know only one way to do that, and it is to be open to the moment. One assumes that there was a reason why I rather than one of you was asked to be the one to translate intent as we proceed, and one assumes that the reason will become evident. I believe this journey begins with our living in love and trust.” (And only later, listening to the recording, did she notice how quickly her everyday consciousness began to merge with something other.)
“Let us concentrate on a new center,” she said. (The words surprised her. She had no idea where this was going, but she freely went with it, trusting. Her willingness and ability to trust was not the least of the reasons she had been chosen to take the lead role.) “In life we center on ourselves, and this is appropriate, for it is oneself for which we are responsible, and no one else can relieve us of that responsibility. We may have – we do have – additional responsibilities, but this one we have always. We are the stewards of our lives.”
She paused, waiting for more to well up.
“Now we are called to expand our sense of self. We are each the individual we experience ourselves to be, but we are also more than that, and this is what Joseph intends to demonstrate to us.”
Another pause, another download.
“It has been said that we need to make a shift like Copernicus, placing the center of the solar system where it belongs, rather than thinking everything revolves around us. This is true and not true; it is enlightening and misleading. We as planets are separate. We as members of the solar system are not separate. One point of view does not cancel another, but adds to the total understanding. Is this much understood?”
CT said, “I understand that I am part of everything else. I learned that in my NDE.”
George: “I understand you to be saying we are both individual and not individual, depending on how we look at it. Certainly that makes sense to me.”
Regina Marie, or rather, whatever was welling up through her: “Yes, you are all accustomed to the concept. But now to make it real experientially.”
That sounded like a preamble, but nothing followed. Eddie said, “I suppose what happens to us in the box, or whenever we go deep, is a sign that we connect to something beyond what we know.”
The consciousness expressing through Regina Marie produced a sigh. “You will see that concept is not experience, not is experience readjustment. We need you to realize yourselves, to remain separate and yet to realize your inherent, unbreakable connection.” Regina Marie, as her normal self, said, “I understand now what is wanted. And perhaps this is how to proceed.” Instinctively turning to the man most intimately connected to her, she said, “George. Visualization may assist. Picture yourself extending to Joseph, and tell us when you seem to touch.”
(That wasn’t expressed very clearly, but he knew what she meant, and so did CT and Eddie. In the moment, such clear intuitive understanding seemed natural. As, indeed, it was.)
“All right.”
She intended love, envisioned sending love from her heart through her arm to her hand, and from his hand to his heart. “Now follow the – the resonances, you might say – from Joseph to me.” It took only seconds, and it was as if the energy formed a vivid, vibrating, pulsing triangle, Regina Marie to George via physical and emotional touch, and at the same time, through Joseph in the non-3D world – up and then down, so to speak.
“Yes,” George whispered. “I get it. This links us in 3D and non-3D.”
“It does more than that, as you shall see. CT, while George and I maintain this link, you do the same with me.” She sent love to CT in the same way she had done to George. “I send love to you, and so does Joseph. Extend in both directions, so that you connect in the same way to me in 3D, and to Joseph, not in 3D.”
CT concentrated. The process took longer, probably because he did not have the intimate connection to Regina Marie that George did, and perhaps also because he had other preconceptions to overcome. “Think of Margaret,” Regina Marie said. “Think of your son Chris. Think of anyone you have loved, and me, and Joseph.”
When CT made the connection, he and Reginia Marie both knew it.
“Now Eddie,” she said. “George, CT, extend to Eddie the love you feel from Joseph and from me. Eddie, call up your connection to Patty.” That did the trick, and immediately! It startled them all.
“Now,” she said imperturbably, “one step more. Each of us extends to Joseph” – a pause to make it sure – “and to one another. Now register what you feel. This means, not emotion, not concept, but – where are you in toto? Who are you?”
A moment’s silence as they processed this.
“There are more,” George said. “I suppose I ought to have anticipated it, but there are more of us connected through Joseph. My brother Angelo, for one. The priest, Francois, Angelo’s friend from Open Door, for another.”
“Many others,” said whatever was speaking through Regina Marie. “Now ask yourselves, what mental habits prevent you from functioning in continual awareness of your membership one with another?”
Good question, that. The answer would launch them on a longer journey. Or, said more properly, would bring them to awareness of the journey they were on already, had been on all their lives in 3D, and earlier.
.5.
Which of two
For years, most notably between late 2005 and last year sometime – I spent an hour or so nearly every day, talking to the guys, then transcribing what I had gotten, then sending it around to the Explorers list as well as my own private newsnet list, and then here. Out of those conversations came several books, some of which have been published, some which have not yet been.
For some time now, rather than recording new conversations here, I have been reprinting old ones. Friends have asked when, or rather if, I will resume the conversations, and when I have said perhaps never (though one never knows), sometimes they have not seemed to quite understand. It occurs to me, the easiest way to explain is to quote portions of Emerson’s poem “Terminus.” (His son later wrote that when his father read his that newly written poem, he for the first time realized that his father had grown old, and Emerson was only in his early sixties at the time.)
I encourage you to read the poem in its entirety, but for me to reproduce it here would be to dilute my point. So, excerpts:
It is time to be old,
To take in sail:—
The god of bounds,
Who sets to seas a shore,
Came to me in his fatal rounds,
And said: “No more!
No farther shoot
Thy broad ambitious branches, and thy root.
…
There’s not enough for this and that,
Make thy option which of two;
Economize the failing river,
Not the less revere the Giver,
Leave the many and hold the few.
…
Talking to the guys in writing, and then transcribing and posting it, has always been a joy and an education, but it takes time and energy, and at this point to do that is to not do other things, including the novel I am about halfway through writing. “Make thy option which of two,” and I am doing that.
But if the first part of the poem is in a sense negative, the final part is pure positive, and I have identified with this sentiment from the first time I came across it:
As the bird trims her to the gale,
I trim myself to the storm of time,
I man the rudder, reef the sail,
Obey the voice at eve obeyed at prime:
“Lowly faithful, banish fear,
Right onward drive unharmed;
The port, well worth the cruise, is near,
And every wave is charmed.”
I don’t know what that says to you. To me it is an almost offhand declaration of faith in life. What the guys apparently came to teach me, Emerson knew long before: All is well, all is always well. There is never the need or excuse for worry.
The celestial kingdom and us (from “Life More Abundantly”)
Wednesday, October 2, 2019
Looking at the 3D world as it is projected from the non-3D, we have sketched the role of mineral, vegetable, and animal kingdoms in maintaining it moment by moment. Let us look at the celestial kingdom, then return to humans who bridge animal and celestial kingdoms. It is easier to describe a bridge if one sees what it bridges.
This is a convenient scheme of things, not a scientific or religious characterization. Something seen in another frame of reference is not going to seem the same. Every context has its own boundaries around a thing, and so doesn’t quite describe the same thing; at most there is great overlap. So, let us define “celestial” in this context not as “heavenly” meaning the afterlife nor meaning astronomical realities. Here, “celestial” will mean the invisible substructure and superstructure of reality, the non-material yet essentially 3D forces that hold things together.
Your present civilization sees matter and energy as separate things, even though science famously recognizes that E=mc2, or, in other words, that energy and matter are different states of the same thing, or different states of the same energy.
Matter is slowed energy, so they must be the same substance.
If you do not hold firmly in your mind that energies are not in any way different from materials, you will unconsciously let them split off from one another, tempting you to consider them as if they were separate. Do that and the next step is to concentrate on one and ignore or even forget the other. This is how medieval understanding devolved into a disconnected spirituality and a disconnected materialism, a long slide that reached bottom at about the end of the 19th century. Then came the discovery of radiation and Einstein’s famous equation, and quantum theory, and science began – but only began – the long climb upward toward reintegration.
And spirituality?
That’s what we and of course many others are working on. Seeing the celestial kingdom again as a normal part of the everyday world re-spiritualizes matter and grounds energy. That is a statement that will repay consideration. Meanwhile, let us proceed to our classification scheme.
The celestial kingdom includes all the occult properties of matter. That which makes a particular piece of ground a “power spot” or a “sacred site” is a specific connection of the celestial kingdom to the geography of a given site. It is not merely a matter of minerals. The ancient Germans had their sacred groves of oaks. That was an example of the vegetable and celestial kingdoms inter-functioning. And of course the mineral structure had to be able to support the oaks. The animal kingdom contributed to a minor degree, in the sense of squirrels burying acorns, say, but primarily the animal kingdom benefited from, that is, luxuriated in, the portal thus created.
If I have the sense of it, you are saying power spots may be created by the interaction of the celestial kingdom with the mineral kingdom, or with both mineral and animal kingdoms.
Yes, and remember, humans are a part of the animal kingdom. So when humans recognize a power spot and build on it and in a sense magnify it, they too are contributing, in a way that other animals cannot.
Power spots are only special cases of the larger energetic superstructure of the Earth. A whole science of geomancy has existed, primarily in China, and a newer version has been developing in the West beginning in the 20th century with the rediscovery of ley lines.
Which of course implies that it was known in older times when the structures and highways were built that trace them.
There is nothing new under the sun. Also, there is more in heaven and earth than your science knows, Horatio. Also, there is nothing new or old – to vary the saying – but that thinking makes it so. But the point is less what has been than what is coming to be. Power spots, ley lines, etc., are the planet’s electrical grid, energy that carries potential, but is more passive possibility than active volition. For that, you get into “superstition” and “old wives’ tales.”
Yes, I’ve been waiting for this. Elves, fairies, sprites, salamanders, and all. I’ve never had to decide what I thought about all that. Instinctively I’ve been tempted to dismiss it all as nonsense; at the same time, I’ve learned to be a little careful about what I dismiss unexamined. Anything believed by many people over time has some truth.
Pixies, fairies, the little people, etc. – where do you think such ideas come from? If you say, “From the imaginations of various peoples,” that begs the question of why they imagined one thing in the place of another. Werewolves, shape-shifters, familiar spirits – do you think these, too, are only the imaginings of superstitious peasantry? You do, but not because you are seeing fact; because you are seeing through the mesh of your civilization’s filters. You can’t see them, except ever so faintly and uncertainly, because your culture gets in the way.
Dion Fortune certainly believed in at least some of them.
Plenty of people – respectable people, sometimes scientifically distinguished people – know what they have seen and experienced, but they know, too, what they dare not acknowledge lest their reputation be destroyed.
Now, let us sum up this so far: The celestial kingdom has its passive and its active side; its ley lines and its “supernatural” folk. Those are the extremes, and many phenomena in the middle. Only, bear in mind – and perhaps we have not yet said this – the celestial kingdom like the other kingdoms exists in All-D, obviously. Therefore, some aspects of it can never be experienced, nor weighed and measured, in 3D terms alone. They can’t be made sense of without taking into account the fact that the 3D shades into the non-3D.