[Excerpts from conversations between Rita Warren and “the guys upstairs,” in the years 2001 and 2002, edited from The Sphere and the Hologram.]
Emotion as gradient
R: This is another question that came up around the disaster questions last week. [Sept 11, 2001] You had said that our 3D Disasters had some impact on you. I wondered if you could talk some more about that. Here we are experiencing fear, other emotions, questions about how to behave, how to feel and so on. What happens for you?
TGU: It’s almost too simple to be able to get across to you. What happens to you is what happens to us, with the caveat that it’s what happens to all of you, including trees, rocks, oceans, and air, all of which are sentient, as you suspect. What you feel is what we feel, but you only feel it one tentacle at a time, and we feel the whole octopus.
R: But without the emotional impact. Or is it the totality of the emotional impact also?
TGU: [sigh] Well, that requires – have you guessed? – another lecture.
What you experience as emotions are gradients. This is difficult, because Frank doesn’t have this language, really. Let’s move back up a little bit.
You know what a gradient does; a gradient takes something from one state to another. The slope of a hill could be considered to be a gradient between a high place and a low place. It connects them and at the same time its own nature describes how they connect. If you have a total discontinuity – a mesa, say, out west – that rises straight out of the surroundings, the gradient is radically different from the gradient in a gentle prairie that might still gain a thousand feet, but take a thousand miles do it.
Well, your emotions are gradients between what happens and what you would prefer to happen. This is very crude and it’s not exactly right, but it’s an entry into the subject.
We don’t have emotions in the way that you do because we don’t have the preferred option in the same way you do. We are trying to steer things in certain directions, and hoping that you all make certain choices, but we ourselves don’t identify with any one of you in the way that any one of you has to identify with yourself. You as an individual may become aware of your other lives and your other dimensions and expand the size of the part that you identify with, but while you’re in the body you’re only identifying with one part of the whole.
You will remember that we say that your purpose on earth in physical matter reality is to choose and choose and choose and to create yourselves, and that the creation of yourself is the gift. Well, it isn’t only after you come back as part of us. It’s a gift while you’re doing it. Now this is an analogy, but just as we taste cherry pie when you eat cherry pie, so we can experience the emotion of hatred and fear when you experience the emotion of hatred and fear. With the major exception – which invalidates the analogy – that we don’t experience things in one slice of time after another, and we don’t experience things in one slice of individuality, so-called, after another.
So the way we experience it is so different from the way you experience it, that until people make more of an effort to understand the difference in terrain, they’ll never understand that both sides are doing the same thing at the same time. If you have a life largely lived in fear, you will still experience that life moment by moment by moment. If we are experiencing that life largely lived in fear, we’ll experience the fear more as a color or a tint or a flavor or a shade, tingeing the whole thing, rather than one specific moment at a time. Now, that doesn’t mean we don’t see a moment. We’re here, with you, in this moment. But it means that what’s fluid for us seems solid to you; what’s fluid for you seems solid to us. As an example, your whole life looks to us as one unit, and we have to sort of focus carefully to get you at any moment in time.
Keeping all that in mind if you can – it’ll be easier when you read it – your emotions are a gradient between what is and what you want. Now, you could also say, it’s a gradient between what happens to you and what your previous experience has led you to think would happen to you. We’re not going to get very far here without examples, so give us an example that occurs to you of a strong emotion.
R: Well, there are people right now getting onto airplanes in a state of terror. They have to go someplace and yet they’re very fearful about that.
TGU: What is it we want to look at about the emotion?
R: My original question was, what are you experiencing on your side, when we’re seeing a disaster in terms of these strong emotions?
TGU: Well, the person boards the airplane in a state of advanced fear. The person next to them boards the airplane without fear, because they live in a different reality. They have a different belief system. You experience the moment as the overriding thing, because you live moment by moment, or rather, you live in the continuing now. But we experience the overall lengthwise flavor of it. So we see that person being brought to an opportunity-point of dealing with an ingrained pattern of fear that maybe until then has been unsuspected or has been dealt with casually. So that where you look at it as “how they feel right now,” we look at it as, “what opportunities does this give them to choose?” That’s really the way we look at it. Thus, we can be made to look very cold-blooded, to you. We assure you that we’re not.
R: It doesn’t sound that way when you explain it.
TGU: [lightly] We have good lawyers.
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