Different connections, different effects

Friday, May 13, 2022

5:45 a.m. Gentlemen, another question, the third since I began asking. Setting for maximum focus, receptivity, clarity and presence, and I can’t see any harm in adding maximum confidence, as yesterday. It did seem to help.

[Bill Ebeltoft’s question:

[Since TGU are connected to us, do they experience emotions as we do, or if not, how do they perceive emotions or do they at all? This came out of our discussion about emotions and our perception of them. I asked if they  perceive them at all. On reflection, I got to thinking that since they are closely connected to us, that perhaps they do experience them, but probably not the way we do.]

Four questions, actually, as numbered.

I’m not sure that’s really four questions, but I numbered them as suggested.

[1) Since TGU are connected to us, (2) do they experience emotions as we do, or (3) if not, how do they perceive emotions or (4) do they at all?

Perhaps not four questions, exactly, but four springboards, leading in various directions.

1. Since we are connected to you. A true statement, but susceptible to misinterpretation depending upon which unconscious assumptions are incorporated in the statement.
2. Do we experience emotion in the same way you do. This requires discussion of 3D/non-3D conditions.
3. If not the same, how, and
4. Or if not at all, what is our condition.

All right, I see that.

So let’s look at it.

1. You will remember, this is more complicated, or let’s say more multifaceted, than may appear. What you – and we – have been lumping as “the guys upstairs” – that is, non-3D presence – may be subdivided, as you know.
   1. The parts of your own particular personality that are integrally connected to you – what we call your non-3D component.
   2. The non-3D components of “other lives”; that is, each strand has its 3D and its non-3D components. When the 3D component dies (from your viewpoint), it remains as alive as ever in the undestroyed span of time it lived. Joe Indian lived in the 1800s. The 1800s continue to live although you can’t visit in the body. You are closely connected to him, and, in a way, more closely to his non-3D components than to his 3D components. Thus you are closer to “his guys” than to him!
   3. The non-3D components of your blood relatives known or unknown to you. Just as your 3D components are integrally connected to your ancestors, so your non-3D and theirs are connected quite as closely.
   4. The non-3D minds that closely resonate with any of your qualities are also accessible to you, even if they never had a 3D connection in the ways we just mentioned. This is because your existence is more complex and interrelated than it appears when you think of yourselves as merely or even primarily 3D consciousnesses.
   5. You will remember, non-3D minds that closely connect to your interests are also available to be associated with you. This is another form of like qualities calling to like.

Now, you can see, we trust, that different relationships will have different characteristics.

Ah, I begin to see where you’re going with this.

Well, the succeeding three questions all hinge upon your recognizing that what we lump for convenience into one sleepy generalization is actually a sea of fine distinctions, which could be expanded upon, except there is no need to do so. And obviously each class of being will exhibit somewhat different characteristics.

So let’s look at the question of how emotions are felt by the various categories. And perhaps we will need to remind you at the outset that emotion in non-3D follows non-3D rules, not 3D rules. It is more like a dye tingeing waters than like a hot needle burning a defined point.

1. You and we are the same thing. “We” experience “your” emotions as direct feed. That doesn’t mean we respond to it as you do, any more than a broken toe means to us what it means to you. But if it affects you, we are affected by the effect it has had on you. We think this should be clear. If not, say so.
2. These non-3D connections do feel your emotion, but at one remove, say. Sometimes there is direct strong bleed-through, as when you and Joe Indian exchanged healing that time. (At least, that’s how it can be seen, for you don’t heal another without participating in the healing energy, so in effect it works both ways, to the one offering as well as to the one receiving.) Mostly, though, you receive another’s emotion as a mood, seemingly uncaused, or caused by a “chance” association with some object or event. And of course if it works that way for you, it works that way for them.
3. Your parents and grandparents retain that relation to you after they cease to be 3D. It is a level of closeness between (a) and (b). So, as you get cut, they bleed, so to speak, but of course from a far more inclusive perspective. They understand things differently than they would have while in the body. But it is important not to confuse their effect on you as part of your “guys upstairs” with their intrinsic being. Yes, they are your ancestors, but that isn’t all they are. So they will be experiencing all the kinds of feed there are; this is only one variation.
4. and
5. are put in for the sake of completeness, but we need not try to differentiate how they experience emotion in connection with one they are connected to only by like feelings or like interests.

It seems to me you’ve gotten somewhat off course here. Does this answer what Bill is asking?

It is preparatory. There’s no use giving a snappy answer to a question and leaving the important things unsaid. The result is likely to be plausible and pretty useless.

And you’re always about usefulness. All right.

The answer to the question – bearing in mind the distinctions we just made – is that in non-3D, connection is more fluent, less obstructed, between units. The very concept of individuals is less meaningful here, even than in 3D. And that deserves, and requires, a word.

You in 3D each experience yourself as a unit, even if you know abstractly that you are a community of communities and are part of a larger community. You know you are a community, but you function as an individual, a unit. Even while functioning as a unit, you are often aware that sub-systems (call them) are operating and cooperating on their own level, pursuing their own agendas. That is, even as a unit, held together by a physical body and held in time-slices to one focus (usually), you are a system of competing intelligences. Surely you can see that it is far more so in non-3D. We are not sundered – that is, our consciousness is not divided – by time-slices. We do not exaggerate our “me-ness,” nor can we create walls between us. Therefore, input is fluid and easily diffused. We share, we don’t isolate. So a disruption that in 3D would be felt by one is here felt by any it connects to.

I have a sense of it, but I won’t swear that we’ve really gotten it across.

Everything we have said has assumed that the question means, “How do we in non-3D experience the emotions being felt in 3D.” It occurs to us now, perhaps the question meant, “Does the non-3D generate emotion?” That would be a different discussion.

Let’s go into that next time, then. I take it the answer is not “yes” or “no” or even “maybe.”

Well, it touches on many things that may be of interest.

Today’s theme, then, is something like “Emotion in non-3D,” I imagine.

Maybe, better, “Different connections, different effects.”

Maybe. Our thanks as always.