Saturday, April 12, 2025
4:45 a.m. Jon, I can’t help feeling we missed the point somehow about aspiration as one of the keys to health. I do feel like we left it undefined somehow. I’m going to reread it and ask you again.
Perhaps we did, but it seems obvious. If you have belief in rules on one side, and belief in miracles on the other side, what is in the middle but steering? navigating? intending?
Ah. So really in a way it is a duality, with both rules and miracles being a form of fatalism, and on the other side a belief in one’s own efforts.
You could put it that way. But that isn’t really any different from what we said. Faith is one word but it has many shades. On the one end is helplessness, on the other end, confidence.
Okay, I think I see it now. So let’s proceed to the second field awaiting explication, How to look for the key.
You realize, it can’t possibly be “One size fits all.” That slogan is always a lie.
Sure. Everybody is different.
So then, how can there be one key in any mechanistic fashion? But we can set out the rules of thumb.
Sort of like I did in Imagine Yourself Well? Different possibilities for people at different levels?
Yes. But your table was more a summary of possible ranges of possibility. Here we want to be more specific.
Well, I’m sure anybody with an illness or a debility or a chronic susceptibility to something would be interested.
Remember, though, that perfect health doesn’t mean everyone in the same condition. It means what is perfect for you, at the specific time, in your specific circumstances.
That sounds to me like redefining health to be whatever you already have.
Very good. In one sense, that is exactly what I’m saying – and that nobody is going to want to hear. And in another sense, it is the clearest message of hope anyone could want.
I sort of have it intuitively, mind to mind. But it is going to be awkward, maybe impossible, for me to put into words. Bullets perhaps, Jon?
Perhaps. Let’s find out.
- Health can only mean health of all of you, not just any one physical mechanism or system or organ.
- That means, body, soul, spirit, mind, emotions, habits, automatic mechanisms (robots) all in harmony.
- And that means you can’t have perfect health if one part is pulling in one direction, another in another direction, etc.
- That is, you must be one But what does that mean? A simpler organism? No, an integrated, smooth-running, cooperative society.
- Thus, if your aspirations are one way and your habits some contradictory way and your emotional life, some third contradictory way, and your associations and circumstances yet another way – well, that is the opposite of harmony.
- You could even extend this to consider the other lives you are part of – “past” lives, other versions, etc. but this, while true, is beyond consideration for most people. For most people, if they can get their own immediate house in order, they will be doing well.
But perhaps we should drop the bullet format and return to conversation; it will be more illustrative.
Meaning, I’m getting distracted by my reactions to the things you mention as you mention them.
Well, “distracted.” I’d say, “stimulated.” It’s productive. It does what conversation always does, broaden your context both by another viewpoint and by what it brings into your consciousness that was previously beneath your notice. So – react.
For one thing, the thought came through that we are born with physical conditions that reflect what we are at the beginning of our 3D life. It isn’t so much potential (dependent upon our actions) as it is the result of previous actions.
And if you look at it one way, that is people’s idea of karma: What you are is the result of what you were. That idea isn’t wrong, but it needs looking at.
I see it. Take the implied judgment out of it; see it more like a systems problem.
More than that. Nobody manifests every potential he is born with. You couldn’t. That’s part of our freedom within our limits.
I think you mean, what we manifest is going to determine what we get to work on during the lifetime.
Or the other way around: What you want to work on will determine what you manifest. Or – both. It’s always a mistake to oversimplify these things by assuming they work only in any one direction.
Doesn’t this come pretty close to saying, whatever we have to deal with, we’re stuck with it because it reflects what we are?
Yes. But that is the same thing as saying, Whatever you have to deal with is your indicator of what you need to deal with! It is the key. It is your path to perfection, to liberation, if you see it right.
Ah. Change your being, change your external manifestation.
That’s the only way to change it. Well, not quite: Let’s say, that is the only productive way to change it. You may outgrow it or it may develop into something else or you may find yourself “cured” without changing who you are – but in such cases it is closer to giving up on the indicated route and pursuing something else.
I think you mean, we may have a certain number of years in which that condition may be the way toward healing whatever is wrong underneath, and if we don’t use it successfully, it may go away without being the means to a cure it was intended to be.
Sometimes payment is deferred. Sometimes one goes on to deal with other things. There are always other life-problems that can be addressed.
The bottom line seems to be, what we regard as health may be looked at as absence of symptoms.
That’s one way to put it. Someone with low potential may have low conflict (hence what seems a smooth life) or high conflict (because the resources available are barely adequate to deal with the things being set up to prod him into action). You can never tell from the outside.
Well, this seems to me to be pretty close to saying, “Accept your life as an indicator of what you are, and use your challenges to change causes, not symptoms.
I wouldn’t have any quarrel with that definition.
That was your whole career as a psychiatrist, I suppose.
Of course. And of course the hardest thing in the world is “physician, heal thyself.” Not because the physician is unwilling or ignorant, but because working on yourself leaves you no independent place to stand – as you well know from experience.
Whatever our psychic reality is at any moment seems to us to be self-evidently true.
It is very difficult to not believe in the mood one happens to be caught in.
Hence the need for religious communities to provide external support, if you happen to be able to participate in one.
Or, if you are solitary, some kind of pole star that you follow particularly when you don’t want to, to keep you on track.
A lot to digest. I think I am going to ask Peter or someone to run this through an AI and see if it can be crystallized for better comprehension.
If you do that, string together Thursday’s and Friday’s with it. Have the AI address it as one unit, see what comes out.
Not starting at Tuesday?
Start there if you wish and if it does not overwhelm the program.
A very interesting idea. Okay, thanks and I hope to continue these talks. I know 3D consciousness offers focus for non-3D minds – or so I was told long ago – but in turn you give us such added breadth of field. It is very satisfying. So, see you next time, I hope.