Sunday, May 12, 2024
4:55 a.m. Yesterday you said you might continue with the question of what’s the purpose —seen from the overall perspective – of people going through the 3D experience. I’m sure one or two of us would like to know!
Yes, because life in 3D can be hard, and nobody wants to go through something hard thinking it may not mean anything. Who would?
In a way, everything we have ever told you has been leading to this question of “Why.” We began there, we’ve continued there, and we’ll wind up there, because “Why” is what it is all about. By the same token, and without contradiction, you could say everything has been about “How,” because there’s no explaining why without explaining how things work.
You could justly say it has all about healing, about communicating with non-3D and with 3D (that is, each other). You could say it is all about love, or all about gravity. Do you see? It’s all one thing, and the less you feel that, the less sense things make.
Did we not have to show you first that you are not alone? That is one of the inevitable illusions common to 3D life, that you are each alone, that life is transitory, that “accidents happen” and no one and nothing is safe. Can you see that all those illusion s breed fear, and that fear is destructive to sure communication with life’s wellsprings? If you are alone in the woods and you think you are lost and it’s nighttime and you think there may be wolves or bears or banshees or whatever perils, how well do you suppose you will be thinking?
Ah! “Perfect love casts out fear.”
It isn’t quite that love and fear cannot coexist. It is closer to say, the more of one, the less of the other.
Well, I always did wonder how various martyrs went to their deaths so calmly and how some submitted tortures so calmly, even gaily, like the one who was being roasted on a grill and told them to turn him over, he w as done on that side. Can’t remember who that was, but it wasn’t some dim legend, it was attested. American Indians, too, were known to be pretty immune to fear of death or to torture, so it isn’t as if the thing were dependent upon a given faith, the way people often assume.
You could almost look at life in 3D as a ghost story, full of perils, scary experiences, gruesome episodes (a la Hansel and Gretel, for instance), and exaggerated division of characters into good and evil, stupid and clever, fast learners and slow. What’s the purpose of a ghost story, beyond reminding you that you are not trapped in that reality, not tortured by witches who want to kill you, not at the mercy of the merciless?
[They said ghost stories, but it seems they meant fairy tales.]
That’s an interesting take on it. So are you saying 3D functions to the non-3D as a ghost story, telling them they’re to thank their lucky stars they aren’t in 3D form?
You think you are jesting, and in fact you are half-serious. It can be hard to remember, in the face of the difficulties of language with its division into “me” and “them,” but you cannot keep things straight until you remember that you in 3D are also in non-3D. It isn’t a “me” versus “them.” Nor is it a matter of plurals, except relatively. But it is perhaps a matter of a part of the overall consciousness splitting off to play a role for the greater consciousness of the whole.
That some part of the all-that-is experiences 3D limitations enlightens us all? Isn’t that what Charles Sides was telling me is some religion’s view of human life, that God split himself so as to experience himself more consciously?
Doesn’t Carl Jung say the same thing? Not in so many words, not in the same mythic container, but it amounts to that. And why should it surprise anyone that the same truth is experienced by people treading different paths?
Only, look at some of the obstacles people face in attempting to even consider such a reality. Too many facts contradict it – if they were facts and not persistent illusion.
- Every person is a separate unit.
- You are born, you live, and you die. Then either you reincarnate to do it all over again, or you go to heaven or hell, or it’s over.
- Time passes. What’s done is done.
- The world is full of good people and bad, in perpetual conflict. Alternatively, it is full of people part good and part bad, and the conflict is within as well as without.
- “Things happen.” The world is cause and effect with its consequent accidents.
We could go on, but you see the point. What in this list of beliefs would inspire trust that All is well, or All is one?
But that’s part of the experience! How could anyone in non-3D experience doubt, lostness, isolation, fear – let alone all the things in 3D life you find pleasant and so call good?
At any one slice of time-space, you will find part of the universal consciousness experiencing everything that can be experienced. Does that mean some are winners and some losers, when you look at it overall?
Everything works out over time, you mean?
Even that implies there are some individuals who won and some who lost. But if you and we are all part of all-that-is, how can a gain or a loss be more than somewhat real? If a soul goes through a horrific life, how much does that mean to it overall? We don’t mean, “Any one soul is only a tiny bit of the whole and may be sacrificed for the greater good,” but more like, “One toothache does not define a lifetime.” What is a man’s threescore and ten against eternity? Or to put it another way, what is being the conduit of a given experience against being the conduit, equally, of every experience?
I’m thinking about it. Are you meaning that pain and suffering (even if nothing more than a life lived in personal isolation and meaninglessness) sharpens the consciousness of the whole somehow?
That is one effect; it is not exactly the reason why. What you just said is somewhat the fact, and the deduction from the fact, that Dr. Jung observed, translating his 3D medical observations and his non-3D intuitions and explorations. It is a valid statement, but it is not an adequate statement. It doesn’t take into account why self-awareness is desired and used by the All-that-is.
Transcendence!
If you don’t want to stay as you are – if you wish to grow, to improve – you have to move in some way, and it is better to move from knowledge than to move from ignorance, as much as possible.
So all-that-is isn’t perfect.
Better to say it isn’t perfected, and why should it be? Indeed, how could it ever be?
We don’t commonly think of reality as growing, changing. We in reality, yes, but not reality itself.
So would you prefer to think of reality as accomplished, without purpose, an endless treadmill?
Hmm. Not perfect and nothing wrong with not being perfect.
Not being over, and nothing wrong with being still in process.
Interesting thought. Where do we go from here?
Do you have any reason to be sure that what you can perceive, what can affect you – what you consider All-that-is – is in fact all?
Sounds like you’re planning to bring back the question of how “everything” can be unfinished.
Our examination of everything is what is unfinished.
Well, I’ll have to assume you know what you’re doing. This wouldn’t give me a starting-place. Our thanks for everything so far.