Monday, May 2, 2022
4:55 a.m. A certain amount of anxiety, going into this session. I have a very precise topic, announced last time, and no idea how it will be addressed. Well, maybe we’ll just get a big blank, we’ll see. Setting switches for maximum f, r, c, p. Particularly presence.
So, begin by stating the issue. Writing it out (briefly) will help you.
You said, time in non-3D results from “the times” calling forth a given quality. Writing that, it seems to me that “the times” can only make sense in a 3D context. Yes?
Well, your experience of us is always in a 3D context, is it not? And we have set out to bring you useful material, not to paint pictures that have no practical application to your lives. So there isn’t much point in our describing reality as it exists without reference to the 3D.
You are playing to my prejudices.
You don’t like people making claims to knowledge that can’t be verified or falsified by experience or intuition. The field of knowledge differs according to the individual, of course: One man’s gist as another man’s diversion. But just as we are addressing souls in 3D, so specifically are we addressing them through the particular bit of mind-stuff that is you. So naturally the information is going to come Frank-flavored. That doesn’t validate or invalidate it; it merely (inevitably) delimits it. One such limit is a bias toward practicality, but in a larger sense, one limit is that we can only describe reality as it affects the 3D world you inhabit. There are always unknowns and unknowables, no matter who is doing the investigating, as one approaches the limits of that particular field of inquiry.
So how do “the times” call forth this or that quality, and how does that produce the equivalent of time in the non-3?
Consider. In 3D reality, experienced necessarily in time-slices rather than all at once,
You may have to begin with bullet points. I got lost before you’d half begun what was going to be a long, involved sentence.
Yes, probably easier:
- 3D is one vast field that is traversed on foot, so to speak, and experienced one tiny bit at a time.
- The field exists, but as far as anyone in 3D is concerned, it is only what can be experienced at any one moment. The rest might as well not exist.
- Remember, this is all mind-stuff, and it changes every instant, unobservably to the senses.
- Your non-3D component experiences the field differently, as if by periscope in the non-3D.
- Non-3D beings (including the parts of yourselves in non-3D) range freely but do not encompass everything at once. They too have a range less extensive than totality. (And, for the moment, don’t worry about the “at once” and its implications. Concentrate on the fact that no one anywhere or anywhen sees everything at the same time.)
- This being so, the non-3D, as you in 3D experience it, tracks where you are, what you are interested in. By virtue of your connection to it, it would be impossible for the non-3D to track anything you were not connected with. That is, it would be impossible for you to be aware of its other concerns, for how can you be interested and not interested at the same time. Your interest in anything assures that you experience it through you.
Which results in Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle applying here too, doesn’t it? The act of observation changes what we observe.
In a way. It would be closer to say, the act of observation assures that you will see whatever of the field connects with you. To make a geographical analogy, an orbiting telescope focused on England cannot report on Japan. Move the focus to Japan, it cannot report on England.
It’s a question of what can be done at the same time, and a wider lens won’t solve the problem. Nobody can see everything, nor all the time.
What you just said is true, but the more immediate consideration here is that the 3D poking its nose in non-3D automatically sees whatever it sees through a 3D mindset. It can’t be helped.
So to some extent all our questions will remain unanswered until we go over.
Let’s say, until you know, it’s hearsay.
So you can’t tell us what non-3D life is like without reference to 3D?
You will remember Bob Monroe’s caveat about his reports on his out-of-body travels: He said what he could get into words was a translation of a translation of a translation. How else can it be? So, we can do our best, and of course that’s what we have been doing – but that best is always going to have inherent limitations. Inherent, not accidental.
In terms of the non-3D’s relation to 3D, our experience is guided by your attention, which is the same as saying, by “the times,” for you can only contact us in your present moment. So let’s look a little more clearly at “the times,” and it should lead us to the relevance for you in 3D.
We have pointed out that the non-3D, no less than 3D, experiences duality. We experience it without the overlay of good and evil, but duality (and its inherent need for a third, reconciling, force) is built into our interaction with the 3D. Where do you think the vast impersonal forces that animate your lives are generated from, shaped by, interacted with, if not non-3D?
Not quite clear to me.
The non-3D is not inert, in any sense of the word. It is vibrant, alive, ever-changing. It act and reacts and interacts. It is alive, do you see? Your ideas of it may be a sort of assumption of rest and resolution, but that is just a modern restatement of the idea of angels with wings, sitting on clouds, playing harps. It silently presumes a purposeless existence.
Yes, so it does.
Monroe tried to overthrow that idea, though his adventures were couched in terms of individuals. But even his description of AA and BB playing, and eavesdropping (so to speak) on Earth, were examples of non-3D activity. Even KT-95, with its equivalent of eternal harmony and angels on clouds, generated discontent that resulted in an urge to adventure. This was an analogy, a fable, but it had a point.
The energies that roil non-3D are not chaotic, nor are they repetitive. Instead, they are creative in the way that 3D times are creative.
That associated idea flashed by so quickly, I am not sure I got all of it, but it began, at least, “The 3D world, which was the creation of the non-3D world.”
Our point is that the rhythms of the 3D world’s energies (reflected in astrological terms) are the creation of, the reflection of, non-3D reality, but slowed down and regularized, so to speak, by 3D conditions.
And we experience those waves of energy through the structures we have created by past choices. Our unfinished business is activated from moment to moment by the conditions allowed by “the times,” and it is up to us to do with it what we can.
That’s an acceptable way to state it.
So our choices continually affect what we can make of the energies, but the nature of the energies, and the order of their appearance, is beyond our control.
You don’t control anything, beyond your own reactions to what you experience, but, subject to that correction, yes, that’s it.
The forces exist in non-3D. They animate 3D. They manifest through what we are calling your unfinished business: That is, how they manifest is shaped by what they experience as they manifest. You live these energies, and continually decide what you will make of them. This becomes the structure – the unfinished business – that further energies encounter.
It is shaped by the times and by your intent. Not one or the other, but both.
Enough for the moment.
A lot to think about. Our thanks as always.