Saturday, September 14, 2019
4:30 a.m. When I watch shows with particularly evil or arrogant villains, my response to them is – as the writers have intended it to be – “Kill them; they have no place in the world.” It would be useless, of course; new villains spring up all the time. Worse than useless, because you become like the worst in those you fight. The only practical plan I have ever read was Anselmo’s in For Whom the Bell Tolls: Make the miscreants work until they come to realize the error of their ways. Educate, that is. This might or might not reform the villains, but at least it would not destroy those who confronted them.
The key here, as you well know, is that your emotional reaction to anything may be as powerful as anything you do or say. It is your second-tier and third-tier reaction that counts, and this is one reason people of ill will do such damage in the world: They rouse righteous indignation that outdoes them in turn.
It’s clear enough, looking at warfare. By the end of a war, people are enthusiastically doing things to others that they would have been horrified to consider at the beginning. We’ve talked about it. Saturation bombing, atomic bombs – both concepts that make no distinction between combatant and civilian, both concepts that would have been rightly considered to be war crimes before the war, or if only the enemy had engaged in them – by war’s end are accepted as defensible and even reasonable.
It is an odd – sequence? Psychological consequence? Characteristic? – that
Looking for the right word, I lost the idea entirely.
It is strange, put it that way, how one-eyed pursuit of a good tends to lead to means identical to those being countered.
Fight fire with fire, is the saying.
Yes. That works out better in forestry than in human relations. In human relations, it is merely arson, and at that, arson that incinerates friend and foe and self alike.
And why does it have to be this way? I don’t pretend that there was ever a paradise on Earth, but does it always have to be this stew of hatreds and fears and self-righteous seeking of vengeance?
You must bear in mind, always, that your entire era is created in the aftermath of World War I. Or, to put it another way, that war exploded the stockpiled ammunition, and the explosions continue to set off further explosions a full century on.
Hemingway saw that. He saw that the war had destroyed peace in his time and for the foreseeable future. He predicted another 50 years of wars after World War II, and you can’t say he was wrong.
And the question remains: Why? I don’t believe that humans are doomed by genetics or psychological factors to be always attacking each other like this. It seems closer to what they observe of rats when they are overcrowded in their cages.
Yet you don’t subscribe to the theory that it is due to overpopulation.
No, I don’t. I think it’s closer to starvation of resources. If the world’s resources and production were meted out more fairly, I think that it would be as if we had fewer people per square mile, because we would have fewer people being squeezed. Why should slums exist? There was a time, early on in America’s life, when there were no slums in the North. Only after the Civil War destroyed the prewar world did the existence of super-concentration of capital and of accumulated wealth create a corresponding mass of people with access to little or nothing of the wealth being created by machines and inventions and organizations. By indirection and lack of attention, a situation was allowed to come into existence and be considered normal, in which the wealth that was created was deemed to belong only to those who furnished the money, rather than also to those who furnished the labor. But this is a sad topic not really central to my question, is it?
Not if your question is why human life is prey to evil.
I hadn’t put it quite that way, but all right, let’s look at it that way. I understand that life in duality must include both ends of every stick. Somehow, though, that isn’t terribly comforting.
It will be less disturbing if you remember that 3D is a part of a greater life, and that every life has purpose.
I think I missed something just there, a thought that flew by too fast to be grasped, a direction you might have pursued.
Remember, really specifics matter very little. What is missed one time will be grasped another time, provided persistence and
I’m missing more and more, it seems, and we’re only 35 minutes in.
Don’t worry about it. The point is that evil is good balanced. We know you don’t like it, but it may become more understandable if you look at it as a question of extremes. The longer the stick, the shorter, still the center is where it will balance, nowhere else.
If I just heard you right, you are saying too much goodness creates or anyway constellates too much badness.
Well – almost. Another analogy would be intensity. A black-and-white negative may be muted or may be vivid. It may consist of highly contrasted lights and darks, or tones that are much more in the center scale.
We don’t have the terminology right, but get the idea. It may be intense or muted.
It’s only an analogy, remember.
But this lifetime does not seem to me to have any particular excess of goodness. What I see chiefly is excess of violence.
Yes, that’s what you see. That’s what is pictured. There is no entertainment value in portraying goodness, except occasionally as a change of pace. You know how it is.
The news media used to have a saying, “If it bleeds, it leads.”
Precisely. Plus, people want to feel alive, and if their ordinary lives offer too little, you will find young men running to get into a war, as in 1914, for the sake of smashing things – they having no idea why they feel that way, having no idea how intolerable their lives were that they are fleeing. And of course long after the enthusiasts volunteer, men are unwillingly conscripted to continue what was begun and cannot now be allowed to fail.
So why the impulse in the first place? And why are we led by sociopaths?
You aren’t led by sociopaths, you are led astray by them. But most of your leaders are themselves bewildered, short-sighted, inconstant, often well-meaning but without vision and under continuous pressure to go along.
Yes, and it is the sociopaths who know how to keep them in the fold. But the question remains: Why? Why is 3D life made into such an endurance test?
It needn’t be. It could be a life lived more at the mercy of what are called natural forces. [I realized, though they did not spell out, that they were saying what Edgar Cayce implied, that forces will express either as human actions or as natural events such as storms, earthquakes, etc.] But one way or another, 3D life is going to express duality in full, not only the half you prefer. (And of course not everybody agrees on what is desirable or not.)
Couldn’t we modulate the evil that has to manifest?
You could, but it involves wholeness in place of goodness, as you have been told.
I can’t remember who said it, but I remember writing it down. More or less, “When a man realizes that it is better to be whole than to be good, he enters upon a harder life that makes his previous goodness seem like flowery license.”
It is true, and there’s a reason for it. It involves bearing your own share of the world’s evil., and thereby helping to corral it, to curb it from wild manifestation.
I don’t know. Jesus said it is inevitable that evil comes into the world, but woe unto him by whom it comes.
Yes, but that refers to ushering it into the world, not holding a piece of it that already exists and has manifested.
I really don’t understand, but it has been an hour.
No harm in pondering until we can resume.
All right, well, thanks for this and I hope it clears up next time.
Thank you for posting, Frank.
I would like to expand on the, “wholeness over goodness” aspect of your post as it relates to my own experience.
You write, “I can’t remember who said it, but I remember writing it down. More or less, ‘When a man realizes that it is better to be whole than to be good, he enters upon a harder life that makes his previous goodness seem like flowery license.'”
Yes, I, too, recognize the value of wholeness over goodness, but with a slight twist.
There was a time when I firmly believed I was inadequate, unworthy, and definitely in need of fixing. The motivation driving my worldly pursuits and contributions was ego-driven; I did “good” in order to compensate for my lack and to prove my okay-ness. I also believed I was a separate “someone.” Needless to say, I endured my fair share of suffering.
When awakening occurred, I, Awake-ness, recognized that I was misidentified as a separate someone named Irene. When this occurred, all ego-driven motivation fell away. And, it was ALL ego-driven. Life came to a standstill! Imagine the angst of not knowing how to motivate myself off the couch. I no longer had a desire to become famous or become wealthy. Heck, I didn’t even care about earning a living. This initial awakening to my true nature was unnerving and confusing.
As confusion cleared, I recognized my essential nature as whole and free. Nothing was lacking, nothing was wrong, and nothing was outside of what I AM. The physical body that I’d identified with was actually contained within me. It was all a joyful recognition of I AM.
Integration began to occur of its own accord and, as it did, I began identifying more as a divine “emptiness,” although “emptiness” can only point to that which has no name or word and isn’t a “thing.” I was “capacity” for whatever was arising. I was empty and full simultaneously. Meeting whatever was arising without resistance became a way of being with the world. Anytime I noticed “against-ness,” I expanded further to include it! This curiosity to meet whatever was arising was—and is—a continual process of expansion. Nothing is separate from what I AM. While the good, the bad, and the ugly are all contained within me, they are NOT me. With no one left to judge whether something was good, bad, or ugly, what remained was simply, “what is.”
Grandpa Fools Crow, a Native American Medicine Man, used to speak of becoming a “good clean hollow bone,” and, these days, this physical form does, indeed, feel like a good clean hollow bone. The more I explore and unhook the underpinnings of judgment, resistance, and “against-ness,” the more finely tuned this instrument becomes for Divine expression. No separation exists between the instrument and the Divine expression; they are two sides of the same coin.
These “dark” times seem to provide added opportunity for expansion when we are willing to use everything for our growth and upliftment.
Ram Dass wrote, “It’s not about becoming somebody, it’s about becoming nobody.” I feel more and more like “nobody,” and deeply grateful for it. There is so much suffering in being somebody!
As I continue to dive deep, exploring all forms of “against-ness” to unhook the conditioned fear that lies beneath, what remains is unconditional acceptance. And, isn’t that another word for LOVE?
As a result of this inner work, whatever “goodness” is expressed through Irene no longer comes from a place of separation or needing to prove anything. The “goodness” arises innately from a wellspring of Never-Ending Wholeness.
Rather than referencing, “wholeness over goodness,” I’d say goodness is a natural outpouring of wholeness. And goodness, like love, implies acceptance. And acceptance is what everyone is in need of.
When I was training as a soul-centered life coach, one of my mentors would say, “People are thirsty; bring the water.”
My way of bringing water is recognizing the inherent wholeness within myself and reflecting that wholeness so that “others” (aka, “The One Consciousness that I AM expressing as many forms”) can find it within themselves.
People are thirsty. Let’s bring the water.
Bear “your own share of the world’s evil, thereby helping to corral it, to curb it from wild manifestation.”
More information that “isn’t terribly comforting.” But then work with TGU, Elias, and now my own guidance shows I didn’t ‘come’ to 3D for comfort … did you? Helping corral evil from wild manifestation feels like wholeness to me.
Jim
When I speak of unconditional acceptance, it is acceptance of the darkness within us as well as the light. And, how do we remove darkness? Surely not by resisting it. We remove darkness by shining light, and we shine light by recognizing the Wholeness inherent in our Being.
Ah, those stories that are designed to jerk out moral outrage from the viewers! There is a genre or tear-jerking movies, too. The stories that invent those incredibly evil characters, how realistic are they? The real-life evil I’ve seen, schoolyard fights and folks treating each other nastily – hard to see who is winning and who is losing, all are typically in a physiological adrenaline-survival-autopilot mode. The real-life evil I have witnessed and participated in does not match the stories. It seems to me those stories abaut the horrible evils of evil villains in a way, train viewers into victims. You can’t stop watching, and your body and physiology experience the ravages of victimhood. Not necessarily good for the body system, but it is called entertainment.
And this afterthoght came with my breathing practice: victimhood training in itself is not just evil villains trying to control us. Being a victim contains an element of being passively made to do things. It is good practice for exploring our relationship with non-3D. The impersonal forces. Learning to watch oneself in action, that may be one of the desirable fruits growing out of that tree of narratives.
Hi all – LOVE to read all yours….And reading Franks` of course!
And today looking into my book-shelves(many of them)to find two “old” books written back in early 1990s by Norman Friedman, and the two books are titled: “Bridging Science and Spirit”, and “The Hidden Domain.”
I`m to quote something about “The Measurement Problem” page 253 in the book Bridging Science and Spirit:
….”The key thought here is that EACH ONE OF US CREATES OUR OWN THREE-DIMENSIONAL SPACE(underlined in my book)
“The reason we feel we share the same space is because of our ability to relate to and communicate about the common features of our environments. Our spaces are similar because we are all on the same level of consciousness and have the same neurological equipment.
page 252:
“None of you sees the glass that the others see…Each of the three of you(told in the book)creates your own glass, in your own physical perspective. Therefore you have three different physical glasses here, but each one exists in an entirely different space continuum.
Physical objects cannot exist unless they exist in a definite perspective and space continuum. But each individual creates his own space continuum…I want to tie this in with the differences you seem to see in one particular object. Each individual actually creates an entirely different object, which his own physical senses then perceive.”
And then jumping over to the other book: “The Hidden Domain.” And quote from page 170, called “models of reality.”
Here Norman Friedman telling what SETH says about the moment point and the total self:
“Seth mentions often that he does not exist in any time framework, that minutes and hours do not have meaning for him as they do for us. However, since he is attempting to communicate with us, he tries to take our experience of time into account.
Seth`s conception of time is based on “the moment point,” the present moment, in which all thoughts and all possibilities are explored in all their ramifications. That is, simultaneos actions and experiences are arranged in different associative patterns.
F.inst. if Seth thinks of his Aunt Mathilda, he immediately experiences her past, present, and future; her belief system; and all her strong emotions and motivations—all this in the twinkling of an eye, One can see why our senses would be overwhelmed with such a huge influx of information.”
And he sums it up as follows(Seth):
“Your brain gives you a handy and quite necessary reference system with which to conduct corporal life: It puts together for you in the “proper” sequences events that COULD(underlined in the book)be experienced in many other ways, using other kinds of organization. The brain, of course, and other portions of the body, tune into our planet and connect you with numberless time sequences — molecular, cellular, and so forth — so that they are synchronized with the world`s events.” (Roberts, The Nature of the Psyche, p.180).
And on page 171:
…to imagine the relationship between various lives, one other concept of SEth`s must be briefly described, and tat is the notion ofthe total SElf: Seth sees each life as a projection from a multidimensional entity which he refers to variously as the total Self, the soul, or the entity. He describes it as follows:
“There is….a portion of you, the deeper identity….who decided that yo would be a physical bein in this place and time. THIS(underlined) is the core of your identity, the psychic seed from which you sprang, the multidimensional personality of which you are part.(Roberts, Seth Speaks, p. 10)
The Conclusion:
“From the perspective of the total Self, each person`s energy is projected into three-dimensional reality and into numerous moment points simultaneously.”
And wishing all of you a happy Day, and the eternal life further on…(SMILING)
BTW: Stormy weather “over here” in the last two days – the very first up-coming autumn-storm this year(Norway to have a far-stretched coastline with the North-Sea and The Atlantic Ocean close up )
After reading today, I would generally point towards this …
The contrast (in the example above as ‘good and evil’) assists us in manifesting new desires and new asking (e.g., our 3D response to the perceived contrast). As creators, the contrast becomes an element for each of us expanding and adding to this new place (the 3D). It also continually brings to ‘front and center’ the relationship with our TGU (e.g., a key element in our natural feelings of wholeness and including experiences of tiers 2 and 3).
Good conversation. I’m reminded of the concept that nothing travels faster than a thought except a feeling. That’s now been backed up by scientists studying blood chemistry and the brain. And I’m reminded of the movie “Gallipoli,” which did such a good job of showing the behind the scenes set-up of war and the reality played out. Also, I’m feeling that “wholeness in place of goodness” would make a good tattoo.
Jane, yes indeed, and thank you.
P.S. I have seen the movie “Gallipoli” too…it seems very well done. A Australian produced movie if not to recall it all wrong? The Englishmen and the Aussies are good actors and movie-makers, that`s for sure.