Spirit and soul: interrelation

Wednesday, August 11, 2021

4:55 a.m. Disregarding previous starts during the night, let’s go again at the question of the interaction of spirit and soul.

You read, you watch movies, you hear in one way or another stories of the world around you. It all goes to add to your soul’s inventory of what it has experienced in a life. You understand, after you leave 3D, the distinction is very little between “experienced first-hand” and “experienced second-hand, via report or imagination.” You know the reason why.

I gather it is because what we bring with us – what we have become, I suppose you could say – is our reactions to whatever happened, not the thing itself. Queen Victoria weeping while reading Uncle Tom’s Cabin was no less a part of what she brought over because it was a reaction to a novel; it was a reaction, and that’s what’s real outside 3D.

And there you have put a finger on the most important readjustment one needs to make, if one is to understand how things really are, as opposed to how they appear. The theater play seems real while it is in front of the audience, but it is not the play itself that they will bring with them, but their reaction to the play. One might say, “How the play changed them,” or “How they consented to change as a result of experiencing the play.”

That may seem self-evident, but now apply it to your whole 3D life seen in retrospect. Everything that “happened to you,” every “external” event or force or person, incluidng thoght and emotion, vanishes from your awareness as anything supposedly independent of you. Instead, you are aware that all those things were touchstones, to awaken you to something that you were, or could become. What you are left with is not the events in any abstract or independent way, but the events as they changed you, or, as we said, as you consentd to be changed by them.

So now, think of spirit in relation to soul.

• Spirit and soul are not separate things, despite the linguistic necessity to separate them so as to think about them.
• Being different aspects of the same thing, obviously they cannot be seaparated even for an instant, any more than a coin can temporarily become separate heads and tails.
• Nonetheless, as we say, they have to be considered as if separate, only for a 3D mind to make distinctions in the interest of eventually obtaining greater clarity.
• So, being inseparable, it would be nonsense to pretend that spirit does not experience every moment and every nuance of soul’s 3D existence. It is convenient to think of them as if separate, but they are one, thus inseparable.
• And therefore, when we speak of a soul emerging from 3D after a life experience, we should bear in mind, this is true no less of spirit. Spirit doesn’t go to the movies, or twiddle its thumbs, waiting for soul to be finished in 3D. It is right there, and of course always right now. If soul is the sticky side of the duct tape, spirit is the smooth side. And just as with duct tape, it is nonsense to think of separating one thing into two things that are not separate things at all, but abstractions. Duct tape with only one side is merely a fanciful playing with words. There is no sticky side, no smooth side, separate or separable, because the very word “side” tells you, or should tell you, that it is a part rather than something on its own.

So we revert to the question: What does 3D life as experienced by soul mean to spirit? And now perhaps the answer is clearer.

Clear in terms of the effect on spirit. Not clear in terms of why things are set up this way.

You don’t want much! You want the meaning of life and the universe, preferably in an aside that won’t require mcuh typing.

Well, you asked. That’s my answer. Yes, I see better that spirit is intrinsically interested in the creation and alteration of souls. I am interested in the halth and condition of my arms and legs, for the same reason: They are part of me, I am part of them. But that realization doesn’t automatically tell me why I am alive.

But you have learned more than you realize; it’s mostly a matter of leading out your understanding so you can see it.

Educating me. Educing.

That’s our job, one of them.

Educe away.

If all those 3D experiences create a bunch of souls that are part of spirit, in each case spirit is in effect that soul’s own private, particular, higher self. Yet it is that for all its souls, hence some important things to realize:

• Every soul’s higher self (or larger being, as we have been calling it) is personal to the soul yet is larger than it.
• The spirit has wider resources, being similiarly tied in to all its souls, and it may share those resources among any and all, as it chooses (and of course to the degree that any given soul is receptive).
• In many ways, you might think of spirit as some religionos think of God, or as Carl Jung thought of what he called the unconscius mind: Relative to the soul, eternal, all-knowing, vastly powerful, inscrutable, self-willed, with its own purposes and preerences. Yet wth all these qualities, still somehow vitally interested in the individual soul.
• Any given soul experiences a life, with all of 3D life’s complications. When it emerges from 3D it sees itself in a more organic, whole, manner than it could while constricted within 3D. But spirit has been experiencing that life, in that way, all along.

Yes, I got it. It isn’t like spirit doesn’t learn the score until the soul’s past-life review. It knows it better than the soul does, both at the time and in retrospect.

So what did spirit get out of soul’s 3D sojourn?

Apparently it got to experience reality (and itself?) in slow-motion and in picked-apart detail, just as soul did.

And what is that in aid of?

Well – this just now comes to me, so I haven’t examined it to see if I really believe it – I suppose that spirit is a sort of Senate to the soul’s House of Representatives. Clumsy analogy, but what I mean is, what the soul goes through once, spirit goes through once for every soul it sends forth. So, its expereince base is way wider than any idividuaal soul’s.

So are its sympathies.

Yes, I see that. I have certain values, but other lives put out by the same spirit may have very different values, maybe quite contradictoy, and I have no way to know which ones spirit favors.

But you can clamor for yours to be taken more seriosly.

Hmm.Is that what choosing is?

It could be seen that way, at least.

That’s very interesting.

Yes, isn’t it? Bear in mind, our continuing goal is to keep linking in your mind various things you may think or know in isolation. Linking things up is always better. After analysis comes synthesis.

After the difficulty we experienced previously tonight, this turned out to be very productive. A title?

You might say something like “Spirit and soul: interrelation.” But you will perhaps find a better title as you transribe.

And next time, where do we begin?

There’s still the question, “What does spirit get out of the 3D experiencing?”

Till next time, then, and thanks as always.