Tuesday, August 10, 2021
2:20 a.m. “The changed persepctives of spirit and soul within the world you now live in” – that is, after death.
To continue our attempt at clarifying your position, we need to show you two contradictory pictures. Each is true in its own context. For both to be true together, though, you have to be able to see with binocular vision.
I may still be too tired to do this.
You may be suffering from oxygen deficiency. Try several enthusiastic breaths.
Interesting. First effect was to make the wheezing seem worse because of course I was no longer acepting the restriction. But with the aid of an inhaler I was able to take those deeper breaths, and I think maybe oxygen deprevation describes my former condition very well. That doesn’t mean the wheezing has gone away, but I do feel more awake. So let’s try again.
The other thing that is going on is that you have one idea of where we should go and we have another. Let it rest for a while. Take the day off, maybe.
6:15 a.m. You’re on. I thought we were going to continue with yestrerday’s theme, but maybe not?
When you are free from 3D constrictions and their immediate effects on you, a couple of different things happen. Or, let’s put it this way: What happens appears to be more than one thing. It is hard to understand in 3D terms, which is one reason why so many first-hand reports of life beyond 3D are so garbled and contradictory, and often so simple-minded and derivative of the person’s mental and cultural background.
- On the one hand, everything is now the living-present moment, with a clarity and intensity and undistracted focus you could never experience in 3D.
- On the other hand, your awareness of the long life you just emerged from (not to mention all the connections, both within that life and in connection with “past” lives) may overwhelm you with memory, with past-ness, with whatever emotions suggest themselves, as you review the life you just led.
- Thus at one and the same time, you are experiencing yourself as limitless energy in an entirely fluid and potential-filled situation, and are experiencing yourself as a veteran – as a survivor, you might almost say – of an intricate mesh of relationships, emotions, debts, credits, that still enmesh you.
Contradictory situations, yes? How can they both be true?
Conext, I imagine. One is true in one context, another is true in another context.
Yes, but how can you – free of the 3D’s limitations – not be aware of all contexts? That is, how would you be unable to realize any facet of the reality you exist in?
Is it really an “either/or” situation, outside of 3D time?
Very good. No, it isn’t. And, as we say, it can be difficult for 3D awareness to figure out how mutually contradictory situations can both be true, hence so many translation errors.
I get that you want me to try to think this out, if only to raise objections that might also occur to others.
If you would.
Well, okay, what is the importance to spirit of soul’s preocess of development via 3D experiences?
You will need to focus more.
I may be too tired.
Later will do. If you can get rest, by all means do so.
8:10 a.m. Continuing.
Your question might be better framed, “What is the relation between 3D and non-3D realities?”
You mean, I think, “Why does a non-3D being want to (Have to? Get to?) experience 3D lifetimes?”
Yes, it comes to the same thing. If spirit animates but is not changed by 3D experience, and soul experiences and is shaped and reshaped by that experience – or, more precisely, by its reactions to that experience – and if the two are two aspects of one thing rather than two different things interacting, and if the 3D per se is a part of the larger non-3D, and if all of it is projected from another layer of being, rather than existing in any WYSIWYG way – what does it amount to?
Well, yes. Why? What’s going on?
Let’s keep this to the practical, remember. No tossed-off phrases like “walking each other home,” or “God amusing himself by pretending to be separate,” etc.
All such formulations always drove me crazy.
The relevant question is always, “What does this mean for me? What are my responsibilities or opportunities? Why am I alive now, and how will I be alive afterward?
Unexceptionable questions. What of the answers?
We remind you, you are on all sides of everything. You are actor and audience, fragment and underlying unity. But have you thought of the implications?
- The actor lives his part, or the part doesn’t come alive.
- The audience allows itself to be transported by the performance, or everybody is wasting their time.
- The fragment may know its own little piece of the puzzle very well (or, of course, maybe it doesn’t; depends on the fragment and its function), but it does not and can not and, one might almost say, should not comprehend the whole.
- The unity that is the glue that holds everything together: Can it take sides? Can it prefer actor to audience, or, in other words, this fragment to that fragment?
I don’t think this is your way of saying, “None of your business; this is above your pay grade.” So what are you saying?
Separation – division of function – specialization, if you will – is the nature of reality below the level of “all is one.” To say “All is one” is useful in recognizing that there are no absolute barriers in the world (in reality, in all-that-is), but not too useful beyond that. That’s like telling an auto mechanic that your car is all one thing (which it is) and refusing to let him look in detail at the interaction of the components, lest he forget that it’s all one car.
Well, that holds true at every level you can bring to mind. As above, so below. Everything is a unit in its own terms, and is an assembly of components, and is a component in some larger system. Is that so hard to envision? Well the, do that envisioning in thinking about soul and spirit.
That came through with the impication that it was going to be a big “aha,” but I don’t get the excitement.
- You know that 3D and non-3D are part of each other, and that life may be described as nesting communities of lower communities.
- You know that although the 3D may be “only somewhat real,” it feels plenty real while you’re in it. You know that it shapes your mind, and that the process works backward as well as forward.
- You know that the entire 3D environment is mind-stuff rather than some independent entity, and that the composition is part of you as you are part of it – and, in both cases, only part.
- That is, what you experience as a separate consciousness is somewhat removed from the total consciousness, and of course this is by design. It is temporary, useful, and remarkably productive of complication.
I’m getting somtehing like, our soul experiences do somehow affect our spirit, differentiating it from all other spirit to that extent.
Yes if you will remember that it is also true that spirit is not affected by circumstance or events.
I thought, “That’s a contradiction,” then thoght maybe you mean, “Spirit is affected only by changes experienced in soul, but it is not affected by the expereiences themselves, only by being mated with a soul that has been changed.”
That is probably still not very understandable, but good work letting in the thought. Given your difficulties, this is enough for the moment.
A drama in three acts. Thanks as always. A title for this?
“Spirit and soul: contradictions,” perhaps.
Okay. Till next time.