After we leave 3D

Monday, August 9, 2021

2:20 a.m. So. More on spirit and the living-present moment, I expect?

Slide-switches.

Yes. Maximum focus, clarity, receptivity. Also, maximum temporary openness, call it: willing credulity while I await later weighing and pondering.

Now, consider. You – and we, of course – are as vast as reality, in the sense that there is no part of reality from which we are walled off. That we are, at the same time, unimaginably small, is not relevant, for quantity is not relevant. That is, the sort of measurements one continually comes across in 3D do not apply outside of it. The vast reality exists; that doesn’t mean it exists as bricks and stones and molecules. Time exists, in a way. That doesn’t mean it exists in measurable metronomic nanoseconds, nor for that matter in days or years. You exist. We exist. But we don’t exist in discrete particles as we seemed to when we measured ourselves by 3D standards.

Does honesty have weight? Is curiosity measurable? Do the virtues or vices exist in some form when the conditions that make them relevant do not? Just as it would be irrelevant to consider what color our eyes will be, we having dropped the body, so it is irrelevant to consider any aspect of ourselves measurable by the senses. There is no hell to burn you in enteral fire because, for one thing, there is no “you” to burn, even if there were fire to do the burning.

So we are attempting to give you hints about your future, even knowing that nothing you live among will exist; that nothing you experience yourself to be will exist; that none of the “rules of the road” like time and space and gravity will exist.

I see the problem. Stating it that way does clarify things somewhat, though. It reminds us that our future can’t be a mere continuation of 3D life in some more etherealized form. Bob Friedman’s old question, “What do they do over there?” can be answered somewhat by a few negatives. They don’t live constricted by 3D rules; they aren’t supported by 3D conditions, any more than they are constricted by them. We already figured out that they don’t go to work and earn a living; now we remember that nothing we know is to be expected or relied upon.

Not quite nothing.

Nothing sensory, nor sensory-based. That doesn’t leave a hell of a lot.

So what does it leave?

Our thoughts, I guess. Our character, I suppose, though I don’t see how that manifests in the absence of 3D conditions. You said from the very beginning, more than 20 years ago, that you regarded our minds as habit-systems, and I see that now. The neurons don’t exist; the grey matter was physical; it is gone. The moment-by-moment consciousness that lent us chronology and sequence (even if at the expense of limiting our effective RAM) is gone.

Now can you understand at a deeper level what we meant by our distinction between crystallized and uncrystallized souls? If a mind cannot hold itself together in the absence of external “physical” 3D conditions, what can hold it together?

The rest of the larger being that it is a part of, I would have thought.

That’s true enough, but mixes categories.

How?

A soul crystallizes, or doesn’t, within the context of the larger being that projected it into 3D, of course. Just because you may lose sight of that parental relationship does not mean it does not continue to exist.

I admit, I hadn’t thought of the two things in the same context.

Few do. Religions often preserve this relationship, more than what we might call free-wheeling metaphysical explorations. But now that we have called your attention to it, look at it.

I suppose if a mind is projected into 3D and fails to achieve a lasting autonomy, its constituent parts – the strands that comprise it – continue to exist, with some added experiences added, but there is no new individual point of view that can take its place at the table.

As we told you earlier. And if the projected consciousness does attain an individual status (so to speak), still it remains part of the larger consciousness of which it was created by a sort of provisional separation-process. Either way, the “you” that experiences itself post-3D does not bring its physical characteristics, any more than its Social Security number. So what does it bring? We have been saying, “its mind,” but that is a lazy approximation. Think: What of you survives? (Bearing in mind, “survives” is a frightened sort of word, subconsciously suggesting shipwrecks and castaways.) So let’s say, what do you bring back as the fruits of your 3D excursion?

The very habit-system you mentioned. The habit of my various strands having learned to function together. The new alloy produced by the 3D-conditions smelting process, I suppose.

Yes, very good. It’s all non-sensory, so it’s a bit unsatisfying to your image-processing habits, but there you are, it is something definite.

It does feel like we accomplished something – but what does this have to do with spirit and the living present moment?

Once you remove your focus from 3D constrictions, it’s all living-present!

Of course it is! But I didn’t see that one coming.

So think of reality in a different way, and see what changes:

  • The living-present moment is the norm, not the exception, except within 3D.
  • Being entirely present, rather than scattered amid daydreams and memories and neurotic regrets and anxieties, is the universal experience, not the exception.
  • Knowing that “All is well” is unavoidable, in the circumstances. Hoping “to create a better world” is meaningless.
  • Judgments of good and bad, desirable and undesirable, even judgments of what a condition actually is (let alone what effects it will have) are literally meaningless outside 3D conditions.
  • Yet you were there for a reason; were formed for a reason; worked, strove, hoped, despaired, loved, hated, all within a reason. What could that have been, and how does your new life – your re-newed life – have a footing in that 3D experience?

I get, merely from the fact that we are now functioning outside of 3D, that soul is no longer driving, or not so much, and spirit flows freely through us.

That’s garbled, but that is an excellent place to resume: the changed proportions of spirit and soul within the world you now live in.

Very interesting as usual. I am somewhat handicapped by just having bought Be Here Now – 50 years after its publication – and remembering how little I know. but I am maintained by our track record, which does seem to have taught me one or two things. Till next time.

 

3 thoughts on “After we leave 3D

  1. Now I better understand why my spirit guide on more than one occasion advised that he could not explain to me certain things while I am still in “3D” ! After crossing we get the Whole picture as it is normal & easy then.
    I now see said the Blind Man!
    Thanks Frank

  2. This actually made me reflect for a moment how much of my self-definition depends on the “outside” world. To the point that it seemed there would be little left at the “exit”, almost close to nothing… And so it made me feel that indeed I was an imagined character in an imagined play, and as a character I could not exist independently of my stage set-up…

  3. And besides that I got an answer to the question I was intending to ask. If my memory serves me well, Seth used to say that all times happened at once and thus there were actually no past or future lives, because re-incarnation as such was not sequential.
    That made me suspect that if that was to be true, then all 3D life in all times would look like one stretched present moment. And now the Guys say that indeed that is the situation in the Non-3D, and therefore I guess it should be the same in 3D, only distorted for our perception by 3D constrictions.
    So thank you Frank!

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