TGU & Thomas: Saying 1

Saying 1

And he said: Whoever finds the correct interpretation of these sayings will never die.

[TGU] The difficult but necessary thing, if you are to gain anything from this long exercise, is that you keep firmly in mind the idea that Jesus intended to convey how the 3D life was, and how it wasn’t, central to the individual. In effect, he was sorting out people’s unconscious ideas and assumptions for them, and as he was having to do it according to the level of his listeners, he spoke often in parables, attempting or rather intending to bypass the conscious mind’s defenses and automatic reactions, and move directly to the essence of the individual. You might say he was attempting to clear a channel for them, giving them greater connection between their conscious 3D mind and their non-3D awareness of which they might have no notion, no awareness. The people of 2000 years ago were products of a different culture, with different ideas. And he was dealing with anyone who came to listen to him, from whatever motive.

But these are records of his hidden teachings, and remember, in the written text you have only part of the record. The remainder – in fact the far greater portion – was in the memory and in the words of those who knew him and those who learned from them. You might think of this as a book of reminders, even more than a book of sayings, and certainly a book of sparks rather than a book of signposts.

And at that – I gather from something the author of the gospel says later – there were other sayings not recorded at all, perhaps not shared even with the inner circle, hence lost to us.

Jesus was not speaking for attribution in that way. It is natural for you – for anyone coming to his story after the fact – to see it in terms of its legacy, but Jesus did not live his life for what would be remembered, any more than you do, or anyone does. He met the moment, and some things were remembered. But he was not living for those who would follow, but for those with him. Now, this is untrue to a degree, but mostly it is truer than not.

So, the first saying?

The puzzling bit, to you, is “will never die”?

I can explain it, but in so doing, I feel like I’d be explaining it away. So I’d rather have your take on it.

You think: Everybody is going to die physically, so it doesn’t mean that. But nobody’s going to die in the sense of immortality, so he can’t mean that either.

And I get it!

Essence to essence communication: There is nothing like it. This is teacher-pupil, only with the teacher physically absent. So tell what you got, and we will correct or object or agree, as appropriate.

It is about crystallization of the individual. If they can get it, they will become permanent; if not, they will (or may, anyway) not become a permanent node in the non-3D human mind.

[Early on, TGU explained to Rita and me that 3D individuals were more fluid, more provisional, than we realized. They said that the death of the physical body, which had been holding together the various parts of an individual’s psyche, often resulted in the individual personality dissolving, unless the person had done the work to crystallize – to solidify – that nucleus. See The Sphere and the Hologram.]

That is close enough, but muddled in your conception of crystallization. If you will return to earlier conversations, you will remember that the issue is one of permanence of point of view, rather than permanence of essence (since essence cannot die).

Otherwise, yes, that is the point. And how were they to know this without Jesus telling them? But do not think he said no more than this. These sayings were for the community that lived after he was gone, to use as reminders. The meaning of the saying would have been passed on orally, not in writing. In your day, it might well be different, because the balance between spoken and written – or typed! – has shifted. But in that time, even among the most educated, and certainly among the most esoteric circles, the bulk as well as the innermost gist was conveyed person to person, not person to tablet.

Now, it may be that some of your fellow explorers will have commentary, and that will assist the process. But this is enough concerning the first saying.

Well, an encouraging start; thank you.

One thought on “TGU & Thomas: Saying 1

  1. My interpretation of “will not die” is based on the message of “live life to the full”, meaning if you understand the message of Jesus, you will realize that you are more than a physical being that can “die”. In fact, not only will you not die, but you will live a full life in this creation of your own making as that which is a portion of the Creator with the full power of the Creator.

    My concern with the idea of “permanence” or not is that it implies someone could be lost. It implies that something created could be uncreated. But my understanding is that nothing can be created and nothing can be destroyed. Instead, everything that can be, is and always will be. Therefore, whether someone understands Jesus’ message or not has nothing to do with their afterlife as an individual because they (which also implies individuality, but really meaning their perspective) are immortal. Rather it has to do with their the effect in their life.

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