Tuesday, November 17, 2009
9:15 p.m. Jon Holt’s question, to wit: What do you think of Jon intending, or carrying out, the ending of his life if his “negotiations” don’t work out? John, bless him, assures me that although he wants a specific as well as a general answer, he isn’t about to do anything at the moment. In other words, he won’t use words of mine (or yours) as sanction for drastic action. So, guys, I have waited till now (from yesterday night) because I wanted to have energy enough to bring something through. An answer that will help, please.
[Joyce] As one whose life was cut off, I can testify to the irreplaceable value of the gift of life, however irritating or depressing it may become. Remember – I would say – that you are in a very poor position to judge your life, always, because the present moment is always of exaggerated importance to you (necessarily, by the nature of life in material world conditions). What is unbearable at age 25 may be seen at age 50 to have been a great gift of whatever proportions, whatever nature. I know this doesn’t make anything feel any better to live, but it is important to remember to look on your judgments of your life with some skepticism.
[Bertram] In another age, we were taught resignation and faith, and although to you as an individual they may seem impractical or even undesirable, to you as a professional soul-doctor, they ought to appear useful and health-giving. Resignation doesn’t mean giving up hope; more like giving up despair. Faith is less belief in the unseen than it is disbelief that what is seen is all that is, or all that is important. Resignation and faith: They will bring you farther, brother, then feelings of inadequacy and isolation. Remember – even if you cannot feel its reality, remember – you are loved. The reason to know this is that all who are in bodies are loved, no exceptions. Admired, too, for what you are doing is difficult.
[Joseph the Egyptian] I come from a far pre-Christian age, so you can see that my attitudes and values were not shaped by your society or by any of the near predecessors of your society. Thus, our view of suicide, for instance, was not that of any of the strands of social belief that you live among. But at the same time, neither was our view of, our experience of, life in the physical. To us it was clear that life in the physical was temporary while life in the nonphysical was permanent including the time while we were in the physical. And, to us, the two sides were permeable – the barrier between them was – not by mental force and certainly not by physical manipulation, but via what would seem to you emotional threads. We could intuit our connection, you might say. We knew where we stood in relation between the worlds, in a direct way that was far more direct than words or concepts. This made the idea of our being out of place, or being in intolerable position, inconceivable. We always knew we had no cause for complaint, in other words, regardless of our circumstances. (Thus, no social protest over thousands of years, because no one was under the impression of being arbitrarily ill-used).
At the same time, if our bodies became burdens to us, we had no compunctions about ending the incarnation, for all could see that this was not a matter of revolt but of practicality. Yet one seeking to end his life for reasons of unhappiness would have been seen as a candidate for intensive therapy, as you would put it, until he could regain his perspective. It is one thing to recognize an undesirable or intolerable situation, another different thing to allow oneself to define rather than live and experience it.
How can you know the value of what you are tempted to lay down in your weariness?
[Carl Jung] Jonathan. Make of your suffering your gift to yourself, your world and your future. You experience an unreliable connection with your non-physical components. You see the elements of nonphysical guidance you connect with as unreliable or capricious or indeed malicious.
Consider this projection! And I do not mean this as chastisement, but as a course-correction.
If you (or anyone, of course) find yourself in connection with unreliable or capricious or malicious elements, this cannot be from arbitrary circumstance. It must proceed from elements within yourself. And the remedy is obvious, in this context: Consciously express other parts of yourself with the elements you wish to encounter.
If you allow yourself to express discouragement or cynicism, what can you attract but elements that vibrate on these wavelengths? If you train yourself to live in courage and faith, how can you not attract corresponding elements?
You have expressed a decent envy of Frank’s connections. Surely you can see that affection and intent to help and intent to communicate must be on either end of the relationship?
In short, if you don’t like your interlocutors, express a different part of yourself! This means, I hardly need to point out, that it is in your hands, awaiting your own change to attract what you want. Could there be anything more helpful?
Also, I am perfectly willing to communicate with you, as are so many others – only do not waste our time with self-indulgent discouragement. We are always anxious to help those wanting help – but those radiating self-pity, say, or cynicism, will attract like spirits, which would hardly be helpful.
Jonathan! Be well!