Gospel of Thomas — final thoughts

Saturday, July 27, 2019

12:15 a.m. Shall we finish the discussion of Thomas?

It is a shame in a way, to become side-tracked by the added-on final saying, when the emphasis should be on the consistent and additive message of the other sayings. But a few words on spirit and soul are not out of place, and a few words on men and women as alternative expressions are not, either. Only, keep it in proportion. Jesus was not a chauvinist; the gospel was not an advocate nor an opponent of women’s liberation, but was concentrated on human liberation, and that is the point needing and rewarding attention.

I was noticing that in re-reading my novel Dark Fire. When you turn the focus from 3D life as if it were an end in itself to 3D life as preparation for the next phase of life beyond it, everything changes. It is like Nietzsche’s revaluation of all values.

Yes. Why would Jesus advocate or oppose revolution, say? Why would he assent to be seen as the Messiah who was going to free the Jews as a people, as a nation, from domination by Rome? Why would he pay any attention – or advocate paying any attention – to the things of this 3D world in and of themselves, as opposed to those things insofar as they did or did not conduce to prepare one for the expanded consciousness in the life to come? Why, that is, would he pay any attention to buying or advocating buying baubles, as opposed to buying the pearl of great price?

If you remember that Jesus was teaching, by word and example, in order that people might have life more abundantly, things will fall more easily into their proper relative importance. Politics, ideology, social movements, reform, resistance to reform, all look different depending if you see 3D life as an end in itself or as part of a larger process. If you see 3D life as an end in itself – a dead-end in itself, we would say – you will concern yourself with many ephemeral things that will seem of great importance to you. It was to help you escape from the 3D trance that Jesus taught, and it is the effect of his teaching then and subsequently that is his importance.

Yes, Christianity and Buddhism and Islam have had great historical importance as social systems – as pillars of civilizations. But their influence came as side effect of their transformative effect on individuals, not as social systems per se. This is why the decay of religions into rote and social-control systems marks their decline in actual influence. The dead hand of the past has great weight, but it is not a creative weight.

I think of the last gasp of Christian idealism and belief in the late 1800s, the movement for “the evangelization of the world in this generation.”

Yes, they were trying in all good faith to fulfill the conditions as they understood them that would be necessary in order for the return of the risen Christ and the end of conventional history. That you do not share their ideal nor their belief nor their understanding of the scripture that told them that spreading the gospel to the entire world would make this possible must not prevent you from recognizing the sincerity and self-sacrificing effort that went into that movement. It was not merely political, nor cultural imperialism, nor disguised racism.

Now you ask, what is the relevance to the question of men v. women, that reveals itself in saying 114 particularly? The answer is, when you understand the assumptions behind an action or a belief, then you can weigh it accurately; otherwise, not. Condemnation is not discernment.

I’d say the immediate question is what we are to make of the disciples’ view of men and women as essentially different.

You mean – though you don’t always recognize it – what you are to make of your idea of what their view was. For you are guessing, inferring from written words not always understood, and – worse – arguing from silence, which is a prime error of logic, as you know.

Yes, I do know. We can’t validly argue that someone’s silence on a subject – any subject – means anything particular. Common error, though. “He didn’t dissent, so he must agree.” Or, “If he had thought that, he wouldn’t have remained silent.” It is often emotionally convincing, but it remains a logical error, as there is no knowing which of many possible reasons motivates someone to silence. Maybe agreement, maybe fear, maybe indifference, maybe despair of being understood, maybe inability to clarify one’s thoughts or articulate them: Could be a thousand reasons, all mistaken for evidence of something that may not exist.

So let us say these few things.

Spirit is the vast impersonal forces as they blow through the structure that is the human soul. Soul is the temporary structure that holds various elements together as a unit in specific moments of time/space. What else they are is not relevant at the moment.

Men were seen to be the expression of spirit, aimed at something other than this time and place. Women were seen to be the expression of soul, rooted very much in a time/space. Where spirit was intellectual and abstract, soul was emotional and rooted. It was a natural analogy, though an incomplete and ultimately misleading one, to think that spirit = masculine = male, and soul = feminine = female. If the analogy had not been extended (unconsciously, in that pre-psychological era) to equate masculine and male, and feminine and female, it would have been accurate enough for good use. The soul is essentially female, as tradition, poetry and literature attest – and as Jung’s psychology does, as well. It was Jesus’ insight that female does not equal feminine, nor male masculine. This is what he understood, and this is why he treated women differently (scandalously differently, to his contemporaries) than was the custom. And bear in mind, this saying and the understanding behind it were included in this gospel to be used as talking-points for discussion to bring future disciples to understand.

Jesus would not make foolish arguments. How could he or anyone help (lead) a woman to make herself male? But he could help a woman to recognize and develop masculine attributes! And the whole record of his brief career shows him doing the converse, no less, teaching men to recognize and develop their feminine attributes. The goal was not to make either into the other but to make both whole.

Even in terms of reincarnation, you surely don’t fantasize that all your incarnations were male, or all female. How lopsided would that be? The idea discredits itself. Similarly, psychologically, you cannot imagine that you comprise only masculine or only feminine attributes or that it would be a good thing if you did.

So perhaps this clears up the misconceptions that accrue when one allows oneself to look at transcendent things in light of the merely mundane.

I agree, and we thank you for three months’ work in helping illustrate the meaning of this gospel.

“And now,” we hear, “on to other things at last!” We’re smiling. But perhaps it is a bigger thing than may at first be realized, to reincorporate the human spiritual quest that is religion into the larger spiritual quest that is an attempt to understand and to integrate. We are not – to put it mildly – interested in creating new adherents to this or that religion, including the religion of materialism. We intend, instead, to try to waken you to the larger fabric of reality.

To help us have life more abundantly.

You could put it that way, yes. If the job were done that Jesus undertook, you would be living your daily lives very differently. And you may yet. Our best wishes to all of you.

And ours to you, and, again, thank you for all of this.

5 thoughts on “Gospel of Thomas — final thoughts

  1. Thank you, indeed, all involved! The clarification on soul and spirit is useful. What Jung says about masculine and feminine has remained closed to me but this helps!

    As the sparks from Frank and this conversation (and of course, not only Thomas) has become so important to me, I”d like to know what are those sparks? Could I learn to give sparks to others? The impulse to find my own truth is so much more important than the hearsay-truths coming from the outside.

    1. Kristiina,
      My response to your question “ …what are those sparks?” out of my experiences over the last five or so years.

      ‘My’ sparks began (consciously) as responses/reactions/arguments/rejections to things said by TGU and Frank’s other sources, Frank, and other posters here on the blog. As I (ever-so-slowly it seems) began to pay attention to my responses, I got more sparks … and that has evolved into dialog when I choose. Neither of us (guidance or me) is very verbal, so most spark/response/understanding ‘processes’ are part of in-the-moment life experiences.

      How do I know it’s not just ‘me’, my mind? One clue for me: I have no desire “to give sparks to others”, at least at the moment; this present Journey is just me and guidance. This post is an example: it’s not something I would do. But I feel that (more and more) familiar pressure to respond, because (I gather) it is something ‘they’ would do. An odd experience, but very real to me.
      Jim

      1. Ha! The pressure to respond – yes, I recognize that! Often I feel when writing my responses here that I am not aiming my words at any audience, the words just come out with a certain pressure, like a fountain.

        The process is a bit like some invisible and unknown button was pressed, and I am compelled to do my thing.

        To clarify a bit about giving sparks: instead of telling each other stories, giving information (and not devaluing that), would it be possible to just give the sparks? Frank is doing that, with the posts, and we fly with the sparks to our own understandings. The stories&information may be the clothes that the sparks require to be able to move in polite society. But the importance of being sparked to find your own truth – that is vast.

        I am just starting to understand, that any information has to be cooked in my own system to become valid for me, and through that, capable of being transmitted forward as kowledge. So the information per se is of limited value. How it moved me, where it moved me, that is the juicy part.

  2. I’m usually kind of bummed when a series come to an end. I’ve enjoyed this one. It has given me insight into what Jesus was trying to teach about living life abundantly, and how rereading the gospels with this in mind can bring new meaning. There is a lot to chew on here, and I’ll reread many of the posts and chew some more.

    1. I have reformatted the Thomas material to make it easier to read, and will send it to anyone interested. I intend to add an intro and concluding remarks, but maybe not right away.

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