46th talk with Rita – 2-21-2015

Saturday February 21, 2015

F: 5:30 a.m. You had said you would continue on from where you left off, and there are a bunch of questions more that Charles posed, that I printed out and have ready to go, Rita. But it is a weird uneasy feeling, doing this, knowing that I don’t quite have a handle on the questions, and hoping you do.

R: You should put it on the record, so that others doing the same work will recognize that their difficulties are not unique to them.

F: Yes, I’ve sort of been doing that right along, and for that reason. Also, it’s a more honest way of proceeding than it would be if I were pretending I could just waltz along, in control of the process.

Many times, I understand the question and could answer it myself (not that I’m always sure where “myself” leaves off and “Rita” comes in). But other times, I read the question, realize that I don’t really understand it, or where it is coming from – and I proceed to put pen to paper and answer it, and all I can hope is that whatever comes out is truly you, or anyway someone “over there,” and not just gibberish. It never has come out as nonsense – that is, it comes out in comprehensible sentences – but often enough all I can do is keep up with the flow and hope it’s making sense. I often do this with the uneasy feeling that a close examination of the material would show that it is full of inconsistencies and contradictions.

R: But you continue to do the work.

F: I do. There’s nothing equally interesting to me, and it feels like I have spent so many years honing my abilities, that I have to proceed on trust that it all adds up to something. And of course when we see response from people indicating that what they read resonates with them, that helps. It’s just that the work always, or mostly, or anyway often enough, comes with that uneasiness attached.

And now we have covered two journal pages and haven’t begun today’s work.

R: Not true. The process, the encouragement of others by example and by stories about your experience of the process, is an inherent part of the process of encouraging people to redefine themselves so that they can move out of their old outgrown shell and into another, larger one.

F: If you say so. All right, you said you wanted to say a couple of things about the final question posed by “cat’s paw.”

[“Is (over-) reliance on thinking linguistically a specific constraint that limits perception on this front?”]

R: Well, as I said, I could have answered, simply, “sometimes it is.” But it will be more useful to explain a little more.

Bob [Monroe] stressed that NVC – non-vocal communication – was an essential skill if people were to communicate with what he thought of as the non-physical world. This is because of just this problem of sequential versus intuitive perception.

F: May I rephrase?

R: You have the pen.

F: I take it to mean, thoughts, words, are sequentially processed and can only be sequentially processed. Non-physical reality is, by definition, outside 3D and therefore is, by definition, not easily even described, let alone experienced, as a sequential 3D-time-slice-limited process. Therefore the habit of communicating in non-3D helps develop the ability to experience non-3D with fewer filters, because it doesn’t involve silently and unconsciously translating everything into 3D terms, which of course is a process that involves a certain distortion.

R: I thought you were worried about not understanding the material.

F: Very funny. Sometimes I get it, sometimes I don’t but what I just said seems clear enough in light of what you’ve said before this.

R: Don’t forget – and this is for everybody, Frank, not just for you – what you get while you are linked to other minds always seems obvious, always seems yours, except when you are groping for new material. It may not seem as obvious when you are processing it on your own afterwards.

In any case, your summary is good enough. Any sequential process is going to impede perception of the non-3D. but it is important to remember that you will only make sense of that experience by integrating it with the rest of your life, and that will be done through 3D means of processing, in other words sequential processing usually involving language. The whole point of 3D existence, as Bob used to stress, is the simultaneous balanced employment of intuition and logic; perception and interpretation.

F: First wallow in the sensation, then use the worm of thought to understand it, he told our Guidelines program.

R: That’s right. And that’s enough on this very important question.

F: Okay, onwards. In order?

R: Why not?

[Charles: {in the 35th session} Rita said, “This should be a tremendously encouraging fact! You aren’t in charge of the agenda; you don’t have to figure out what to do; you aren’t in any way lost; and nothing you became is lost or unemployed. It is a state the very opposite of stagnation.”]

R: I shouldn’t need to say much about this it is only when the 3D-formed ego, thinking it is on its own, unaware of its integral connection to non-3D (through its extension in that direction) and to other past 3D experiences, other 3D-shaped minds (through the strands that comprise it)

F: Sort of lost control of the sentence, though I know where it’s going.

R: The only time you feel lost and alone is when you don’t feel your connection to more than the 3D-defined self that the senses report. As long as you remain in connection – or, and this is important – as long as you live in faith that the connection has not ceased to exist, you don’t have to worry that you don’t know what to do, you don’t know where you’re going to end up, you don’t know if you’re safe, you don’t know if “external” events are going to overwhelm you. If you remain aware of your connections, you recognize that the hardest challenges have meaning, and that it is very true that “all is well, all is always well,” regardless of whether you see it or not, feel it or not, approve of conditions or not, feel adequate to circumstances or not.

You don’t need to do anything, any time, but your best, and in this context “doing your best” refers not primarily to external efforts but to your attitude, your concentration on the underlying point to all of life’s challenges, which is, how do I respond to this? What are my values and how do I express them? How will my response to circumstances show me who and what I am to date?

F: Can’t get lost, can’t get hurt.

R: Well—

You know full well you can get lost, can get hurt, judging in 3D terms. I don’t mean to explain away difficulties any more than to explain away evil or suffering in general. But it is true that from your non-3D perspective you can see that the 3D drama doesn’t mean what it seems to mean from within the drama. Life is meant to be convincing, after all. How much would it accomplish for you to be going through the motions saying, “I know I just broke my arm, but it really doesn’t mean anything”? No, when you break your arm you can’t define your arm into an unbroken state. (The question of miracles is a side-trail at the moment.) It is in non-3D that we experience things that way – instant manifestation, instant change. The point of 3D circumstances is delayed consequences so you don’t have to experience everything as ephemeral. I realize – I well remember – that often enough you would like nothing better, but all that would happen is that you would define away anything you didn’t like or didn’t approve of, and therefore couldn’t profit from the play.

F: Which bears on the topic of why there is so much pain and suffering in the world. It is because we can’t escape the consequences of our actions merely by wishing them away.

R: You wouldn’t accept that if I said it! Try it again, more carefully (which by the way will give you a sense of the difficulty of trying to teach from a distance).

F: Well, pain and suffering are the results of decisions and actions in 3D. Some are our own decisions and actions, and some are not. Therefore we experience results both first-hand and second-hand. Come to think of it, this sounds like the old “Earth school” concept I have so much resistance to. So I suppose that aspect of it must be true, or true enough in context.

R: That’s a little better. 3D experience is always real in the way that anything is real that does not yield to contrary desire. And, as I say, it is the persistence of external conditions that is a prime value in 3D. But it is the fact that such perceived conditions are only relatively true (i.e. true only while in 3D) that is your Ariadne’s thread out of the 3D labyrinth.

F: I guess we aren’t going to get to the next item on the agenda. Anything more to say about this one?

R: You aren’t in charge of the agenda – therefore you can relax about it. You aren’t lost r perplexed at the non-3D level, and if you can learn to trust that – the easiest way to do so being “all is well” – you will find your own way easier not because “external” circumstances ease (they may, they may not) but because you don’t waste so much energy in anxiety.

F: Okay, Rita, thanks and we’ll see you next time.

4 thoughts on “46th talk with Rita – 2-21-2015

  1. Frank,

    Found this fascinating and helpful today as I have been re-reading some of Jung to better understand my own patternings around what in my life produces the opposite of what I go for repeatedly…It is such a clear pattern that it offered me insight into my unconscious beliefs or ancestors if you prefer.

    For example, when I took a life saving course years ago which was a huge physical challenge, I passed much to my own surprise AND despite the behavior of a male student in the class who went out of his way to try to cause me to fail. He actually would not come up from the bottom of the pool when when I went to rescue him. At the end of the class he rushed over to see my grade etc. He was furious I did so well saying a woman of my size shouldn’t even be in the class! This challenger is not new in my life. I started to assume there is an energy in me with lots of doubts about my abilities especially because I was born female.

    I only bring this up because I want to better understand these challenges in 3D which have often caused me a lot of suffering. Does as Jung implies, the unconscious have its own consciousness?

    How does it play with the conscious mind? What invites in these dynamics? Is that the group or some agreement before we arrive here? Repatterning is taking, in my estimation, a hell of a long time. But I can be unrealistic about what I can change with meditation sometimes.
    The persistence of external conditions is a prime value…I can see that within this context because it gives me an idea that there is something in me calling in these repeat patterns even if I can’t fully comprehend them as yet…the way out is an inspiring thought.

    “3D experience is always real in the way that anything is real that does not yield to contrary desire. And, as I say, it is the persistence of external conditions that is a prime value in 3D. But it is the fact that such perceived conditions are only relatively true (i.e. true only while in 3D) that is your Ariadne’s thread out of the 3D labyrinth.”

    again Thank you both…all
    Louisa

    1. Good questions to ask, and I am asking Charles to add them to the queue, but meanwhile, don’t your own guys upstairs have anything helpful to say to you about it?

  2. The material in these recently re-published sessions with Rita and my experiences of last week bring out among other things the value of developing our non-3D senses.

    Last week I was imbedded in Remote Viewing Intensive, led by Paul Elder, who is (like Frank) a gifted soul connected to TMI. Learning that non-verbal communication is natural and can be developed, that visualization and sensing of gestalts independent of time that come through and are processed as visions, feelings, emotions, even touch and taste sensations are possible. It opened my thinking further to skills that we all have that I was for the most of this life unaware of, and to the richer life experience that is possible by developing those skills. Not to mention their value when we are no longer in body.

    The remote viewing training also reinforced the impact of limitations that Rita often discusses. Some limitations that we experience as space and time are purposeful for our benefit, and some are self-imposed, the latter which we can choose to release ourselves from.

    Even as a novice with little perceived “natural” capability and a pretty low overall “hit” rate, I was able to experience for example, aspects of the Mt. St. Helens event in the “past” and a difficult to describe different experience of the “future path of my soul”. Our group of 17 participants were all able to locate on a blank piece of paper the small area of a large map (that we would be shown in the future) where a significant event occurred. Simple calculations showed that the likelihood of 17 people picking the same, right region of a map in a random process would be greater than 1 in over 4 trillion!

    The lasting benefit is not just from these experiences, but the realization and opening up of myself to whatever comes with the further development and use of these innate capabilities.
    John

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