Productive complications

Sunday, April 12, 2015

F: 5:45 a.m. Good morning, Miss Rita. Shall we go back to the queue? Or do you have more to say for TMI?

[pause]

I’m having a hard time “hearing.” I hesitate between a couple of different ways to begin, and I don’t quite feel where the connection is.

R: You aren’t used to that, by now. You are used to chasing the pen across the page to try to keep up with the words or ideas pouring through.

F: That’s right.

R: Just as well to remind people that it isn’t always that way, so that they realize, when they are somewhat blank, that maybe the thing to do is ask another question, or in some way start the process again. I don’t mean alter externals – it isn’t a matter of ritual – but somehow reposition yourself so you can more easily catch the breeze. In this instance, your mentioning your difficulty gave me something to respond to, you see.

F: I keep forgetting that in some ways the communication depends on things on either end, and so, in effect, the problem can be on your side.

R: You could see it that way, if that is helpful to you, but that isn’t how I would describe the process. I’d say, instead, that the problem is always –

Well, again, you could see it as sometimes a problem on our side. It’s a problem in relativity, depending entirely upon where you stand, what you see.

F: You were going to say it is always on our side, some problem arising from where our minds focus, or what they focus upon, because our 3D attention is the end of the communication that flickers and dances.

R: Yes, I was. But it is equally true that we on this end may be insufficiently focused for your needs at any given moment – a stimulus may provide us with little direction, and in turn no one avenue of approach is obvious to us, or I might say draws us forth.

F: This is a more complicated subject, and perhaps a deeper and more important one, than I realized at first, isn’t it? And again I sense that it isn’t strictly Rita I have on the line.

[When the person or people on the other end of the line are undefined, I will refer to him or her or them as TGU.]

TGU: We answer as we are called forth. Who the “we” is at any given moment in effect changes with the movement of the material.

F: I’m at a loss as to how to convey what I’m half-sensing.

TGU: That’s because we are indeed getting into deeper waters, and you see several alternative lines of approach, several different bodies of knowledge all of which need to be explained at the same time, which is next to impossible by sequential processing – that is, by words.

F: Then let me concentrate on Rita for the moment. [An immediate change in the internal “weather.”] Thank you, it felt like things cleared, inside, when I said that. Things quieted, slowed. I was getting over-stimulated, or let’s say wound up, almost anxious, as if being asked to do more than I can do. Miss Rita, how do we proceed, here? And I am well aware that you’re using this as a teaching opportunity, the process as well as the information

R: You remember, I used to say, or I used to notice, anyway – I didn’t say it at all until I came to write my introduction to our book of transcripts – that you are not given to self-reflection. That is still true, though less so, and therefore it is as well for me or for someone to act as mirror for you, to slow you down long enough to notice fluctuations in your consciousness, to notice the flavor of interactions. That isn’t your natural reaction, but you need to convey at least some of it, if people are going to get a true account of how you are experiencing this. Otherwise they will encounter moments like the one that began this and will think it is a lack in themselves.

F: I have never tried to pretty up the messiness of the process. I haven’t been portraying myself as better at this than I am.

R: No, but you have been showing one particular defect of your qualities. In this as in life, you tend to gloss over problems so that you can continue to sail full speed ahead. “We’ll think of something,” you say as you encounter a difficulty, or “we’ll see.” That’s good in so far that it lets you proceed in faith that you will not meet something you can’t handle, but the defect of the quality is that you miss things that might prove helpful the next time. And in this case, someone without that same sure confidence, meeting moments of blankness (especially if at the beginning of their process) might conclude “I can’t do it,” rather than saying, “I wonder what’s going on? Let’s try something else?”

And, your somewhat rough-and-ready approach is far better suited to first forays into new territory than careful map-making. Nothing good or bad about that, only keep it in mind. The map makers to follow (like those that preceded) will exhibit many different qualities, complementary ones.

F: In other words, I am the bird-dog, flushing out the game from the bushes, and others will be the ornithologists.

R: You could put it that way. Anyway, this morning, just a few minutes ago, you flushed a cover of quail and couldn’t decide which bird to aim at.

F: Where’s Papa Hemingway when you need him?

[Another “voice,” a different “feel.”] He’s right here.

F: Okay, and I need to remember that we should be careful who we think about, lest we wake the dead, so to speak? Or do you have something you want to say specifically on the subject at hand?

EH: It may not have struck you, but I was a close observer and a careful describer and an inter-relater of many worlds. Those are talents you can use in this particular endeavor.

F: So was that you, the other day, on what non-profits need to do to expand? Surely not.

EH: Did I say it was? But – just as then – you need not expect people [in the non-3D] to have to work outside their areas of expertise and comfort when it is so easy for us to hand off to another, who will delight in assisting.

F: Of course. I remember, years ago, getting more than one person on the line at the same time, sometimes deliberately [that is, by my conscious intent] and sometimes as a surprise to me. You and my father, for instance, or Claude Bowers and Upton Sinclair that time, or you and Jung, come to think of it.

EH: Or [Joshua Lawrence] Chamberlain and Lincoln. Yes, you have had a few examples, but isn’t the point of this that you have been both able to and almost unable not to take it for granted and continue with whatever you were intent on, rather than concentrate on the nature of the process? You took for granted that the rules were invisible to you, but you never much cared to explore what those rules might be.

F: And now the time has arrived when I am to be told?

EH: The time has come when you could devote a little more attention to the process so that others will be able to be freed enough to pay more attention to the terrain they come to.

F: That’s fine.

EH: You say “that’s fine,” but you don’t yet realize, you will need to change. You need to lay down some threads and pick up others, as you put it. What you did as a solitary explorer won’t serve you as well in your capacity as a guide to other explorers, or should we say settlers.

F: I’m getting the analogy to Daniel Boone, that I take it stems from you.

EH: Well, it is an instructive analogy. He began as a hunter, moving into Kentucky to find riches, but still thinking primarily of returning to North Carolina to his family and community, only hoping to return with furs and all. But years of living in the unpeopled wilderness changed him. His conscious values didn’t change – he still thought of himself as a family man and a member of the community even though he might spend months away from it – but beyond his awareness, his experience of living in a different manner was changing him, so that when he returned to his community he thought one way but reacted a different way. He led his settlers into Kentucky thinking he would connect his two worlds, and didn’t quite realize that in connecting them, he was helping change both them and Kentucky, and that he would not fit in to this new reality very comfortably.

F: I keep wanting to mention that Kentucky was not peopled by Indian tribes; that they all regarded it as neutral territory, preserved for hunting.

EH: Yes, and he changed that too, even though he himself might have preferred it left that way.

F: I can’t help regret that I didn’t get to at least start to describe the relationships I was starting to feel, at the beginning of this.

EH: There will be other times. This one was about process.

F: I see. I guess. Well, Miss Rita, Papa, I’ll see you another time, and we’ll see where we go. Till then.

6 thoughts on “Productive complications

  1. I am aware I’ve been an irritant, for which please accept my apologies. What Rita is saying appears to me to be touching areas that the many authors describing the larger (than 3D) human context carefully avoid discussing, which I find to be valuable. I’m interested in healing, not only personally, but of the apparently very ill humankind and the ravaged Earth. As Rita and others in so many words have pointed out, those upstairs depend upon us to tie down their imaginative fantasies and explore grounded evolutionary pathways. Yet, they program us in preparation for birth and (attempt to) continually; guide us, which I conclude are the origins of the inspirations driving many of the violence we are wielding on each other and the natural world. Either this is true, or they have been for millennia and are now failing miserably to direct us, which doesn’t say much for the trust they would like us to place in them. As the Hermetists intoned, “As above, so below; as below, so above.” It, thus, appears to me that humankind is in need of another Copernican revolution both above and below; humankind is not the center of the universe, which wasn’t created for it, and that our separation in any sense from the remainder of the universe is a fallacy, in fact is the basis of our disorder. Healing must originate here. In fact, of course, such efforts are now happening both here below and above, again as Rita noted, whether in time is much doubted—but, what is time?
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    I swore I wouldn’t read any more of your material, because it seems to me that much of its humanity-as-the-center-of the universe provinciality is only a few steps up from the Church’s attitude in 1600, which sets my teeth on edge for the reasons described. Not that you are unusual; much of religion, economics, and technology is centered on aiding our escape from the natural world, as are all those mind-altering drugs. What Rita recommends vis-à-vis expertise (I prefer the word “skills”), however, has entered an area where I believe I may have something worthwhile to add. One background paragraph:
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    In the mid-sixties, I was thirty years old and my life, though seemingly successful, was stuck. Then, I discovered Zen, Shri Ramana, and Autogenics and these opened my eyes to a fascinating horizon. Then, in the early 80s, I shucked my tenured and so constricted professorship and moved to the Silicon Valley. Long tense hours and commutes too soon strangled all the insight I had gained to answering “Who am I?” after I escaped a dozen years later, I now longer remembered how to relax and meditation was accompanied with spasmic legs. I had read Bob Monroe’s books along the way and about six or seven years ago or so and became aware of TMI’s offerings. We’d gone through a bankruptcy and a TMI adventure was quite impossible, but I got the idea that if I was to break through the barrier, we should purchase and use the Gateway CDs. It was a great choice and gave me the breakthrough I’d been looking for, as it did for my wife as well.
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    Hemi-sync was a marvelous idea. I now know maybe another dozen or so ways to accomplish the same breakthrough, but none as fast and clean. I tell you truly, however, that Bob’s and his daughter’s voices were not good choices. A few months ago I asked TMI if they had any other Focus 12 or above CDs and was told, no, only the Gateway set. I believe they were wrong, that Joe Gallenberger’s Manifesting CDs, at least one, has Focus 12. I do know that his SyncCreation CDs do teach Focus 12 and superbly well. Just compare the voice on those CDs with the Monroe voices and you’ll see the Gateway problem and how outside expertise could aid TMI. To learn Focus 12 and 15, at least, can be of much value to many, but tying it up with TMI allows only a few to have the opportunity. We might say that it is putting corporate locks on Heaven.
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    Surely my Guides-Up-There (GUT) clued me in to Gateway. Since that time, we have become much more intimate. A little over a year ago, I had degenerating health issues and was rapidly growing elderly. I’d long been interested in spontaneous healing in particular and the related creativity, manifesting, and inspired knowing in general, but the scientist/engineer in me rebelled at all the “magic” hocus-pocus. Anyhow, my GUT conspired to get me to seriously try some qigong practices that had been shown to be healing in some Beijing cancer wards. They worked marvelously, but that is another story. I insisted on understanding what had happened from a larger perspective. My GUT gave me a pile of reading and experiments to perform for almost a year. Then, one day perhaps two months ago, I was trolling qigong on Amazon and up popped Zhineng Qigong. I’m certain that I never seen that name, yet here suddenly was a list of many long, complex books and DVDs—I suspect my GUT didn’t want me to see it until I was ready. Thus was I introduced to Dr. Pang Ming.
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    Dr. Pang was educated in both Western and Chinese Traditional Medicine while studying under several qigong masters. In the process, he saw healing happening much more frequently in qigong surroundings than in his practice. Subsequently, he gave up his medical practice and opened a medicine-less hospital. He insisted that each “trainee”—he had no patients—be examined by medical doctors both before and after treatment and he kept meticulous records, much of which resulted in many published scientific papers (all in mainland Chinese). You will find the list of healings accomplished to be fabulous, many at which Western Medicine throws up its hands. His approach is very simple. It involves, as I see it, taking the trainee into Focus 12 and teaching her the simple process of manipulating energy by intention. It takes quite a bit of time for the trainee to learn to “expand their Mind”; the rest is straight forward. My guess, access to Focus 12 Hemi-sync training CDs would greatly speed this up. Suppose several million of these CDs were made available for as little as $5.00 each. Think of the healings. Even at a few cents profit each, TMI would still make a fortune. Think of the goodwill this might gain TMI upstairs.
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    As I see it, I once knew all that stuff going on upstairs and will re-remember it when I die. So, what’s the big deal? Here in 3D is where the action is with, everyone tearing the Earth and each other to shreds while insisting they get their fair share. I’m told that Thatwhichis is all about love, but there is very little evidence of it down here with each of us protecting our property our rights to the death. Wouldn’t be marvelous if TMI could be among the leaders out of this jungle?
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    Last summer, after several truly remarkable healings were clearly progressing thanks it would seem to about 15 minutes of simple qigong exercises daily, I insisted that the GUT give me some insight about what was going on. Almost immediately, the Alchemists’ slogan “Solve et Coagula” popped up synchronously from two unrelated sources, neither of which I had previously read. I set out to break the code while maintaining a record of each step. My GUT typically answers my involved questions and directs me by seemingly randomly directing my eyes to a book—I have quite a library; when I open the book apparently to a random page, the first paragraph my eyes fall on has the answer or more often the first step toward getting it. Cracking the code involved reading and reading and reading. The slogan appeared two more times along the way, perhaps to keep me focused. The third time was associated with Kashmiri Shaivism and the last recently in a study of the Stoic roots of Jesus’ teachings related to the Greek “logos”, which was the name the Stoics gave to the creative livingness essence inherent everywhere in the cosmos and recognizable in the complex emergent systems that are now attracting many scientists’ attention. A short while after this, I happened on Pang Ming and Shineng Qigong and the code was cracked. No, I’m not going to tell you more now. I suspect Joe Gallenberger can give you some pretty good hints.

    1. We’ll have to agree to disagree. i think humans are indeed the center of the 3D universe, bearing in mind that humans doesn’t mean only denizens of Earth. And i think the Copernican revolution we need is to see our center of existence not as the 3D universe, but the non-3D, with the 3D one specialized part of it.

  2. Frank,
    A concept most often referred to as ‘focus’ comes up over and over in your work and in the information from non-3D:
    -TGU when talking about ‘building the crystal’ (personality/soul)), holding it together after ‘death’, becoming that ‘lens’ through which to project other 3D lives, etc.
    – both TGU and Rita in comparing 3D to non-3D folks: we have the sharp focus, they have the broad view,
    – Bertram, talking about how Jesus held “himself together beyond death” to “reconstitute his body-soul connection.”
    – (Yesterday) Rita on group minds: individual minds ‘focusing’ on the same thing/in the same way would seem to imply focus,
    – (Today) your comment today that we should “be careful who we think about” when Hemingway (unexpectedly) came through.
    – your work here seems to build from the ability to hold your focus ‘there and here.’
    – Rita’s ‘grand vision’ seems to point to increasing and sharping ‘focus’ in those of us interested in marching down that route.

    (Without specific questions) could Rita share her views and feelings about focus, in ‘us’, in ‘them’, in the future?
    Jim

  3. Thank you Frank and all.

    Hmm, about “Focus” (and to read the above)… Edgar Cayce Readings came to mind once again (well, well, it seems the E.C.Readings, one way or the other, has become “glued” into my mind).
    E.C. says: “You are your Focus` and your Intention; You are what you eat,” digesting the food, “both symbolic speaking as in the manifestation of physical life).
    BTW:
    I have done Qigong in the former years,but one way or the other “went away” from it.You can do the exercises all alone at home as well (for free). The exercise is good anyway.
    It seems I have a sort of aversion in “to becoming addicted” too much within any specific “organizations.”
    And when it comes to “instant healing” as such… absolutely agree in the possibility of it.
    Dr.Frank J.Kinslow has a book, “The Secret of Instant Healing,” which telling: “Works in minutes,Is easily taught,Requires no special training. An Introduction to the Power of Quantum Entrainment”. Everyone can apply it.
    And I did bought the book because thinking it is (must be) good for The Lazy One.

    Back in 1993 “The Silva Method”(Jose Silva); “Unlocking the Genius Within”, became very popular in Europe. Especially among the “Business folks.”
    “Back then”,the meditations by Louise Hay became popular as well. It became “a trend.”

    The Life IS interesting by no doubt.
    A nice Day today…I`m on my way to buy a new car. My husband has found I am good at it throughout the years (I love cars — both the old and the new).
    Cheerio, Inger Lise.

  4. Very interesting – both Frank’s communications and the input of others.

    I wanted to add to Focus and Intent, Desire …for without a desire to communicate one would quit quickly and Frank you have real commitment here.

    Don, I found your ideas refreshing especially your questions to TGU and our current situation of upheaval, violence and earth challenges.

    In fact, after so much communication and meditation, openings I have had at least since my 20’s, I find I am feeling jaded of late not with my peers or fellow seekers, but with whether it will do much for us here on earth.

    I almost feel this avenue of spirituality is becoming one more opportunity for marketing and industry which seems to dwarf even our survival questions, like why are bees disappearing and will we work with nature or just allow huge Corporations to control our food and water etc. I am so tired of having to make everything a business in this life as a writer and seeker. Perhaps EH has some inspiration there? He seemed to master it and yet remain a creative person.

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