Our society needs to make a shift in its assumptions equivalent in importance to the shift that was made when Copernicus demonstrated that the Sun, not the earth, was the center of the solar system. Putting the center in the center, instead of putting it on the periphery, straightens out a lot of misunderstandings, and points the way for a society that has become seriously demoralized because it has fallen into confusion. This information is as received Wednesday January 4, 2006 from my discarnate friend David Poynter, with minor editing.
(12:15) Okay. David?
Your long search for verification, and your continuing to provisionally believe, are the text for the sermon. What was a stumbling block for you will be a show-stopper for others, unless you and others show them how the issue may be dealt with in the absence of verification.
Your friend Bruce Moen approvingly quotes his friend: Trust is always the issue.
Let us consider the Copernican Shift question that you considered turning into a book. In a way your entire life is a working-out of that question.
Copernicus said that the proper center of the system of planets was the sun. Once he put the center in the center, all the phenomena that had been charted for so many thousand years were suddenly seen in a different light. That is all that happened, and all that ever needed to happen. So, your work. Take the person, as you commonly experience yourselves, out of the central position in your greater being. You are, correctly, central to you. You are in no way central to any of the rest of your being that is “past-life” or “future life” or even “spiritual.”
To put it another way, each person is central to the time and place in which he or she lives! Nowhere else. Should I be central in your life? Should you be central in Joseph’s life? Obviously not.
But if each 3D-Theater personality is only central in one time/space at a time, none of them individually can be the center. Elementary, is it not? And by the way, it isn’t even as simple as this. You – in November 2004 – are not even central in your own life in January 2006. Take that more narrowly, and you can see that we are all central to our own lives only at the moment we experience as the present. We surf the moment of the present; that is our life, really. I know it doesn’t look that way to you. In any case it is a digression.
If any given present-moment personality cannot be the center, and if some center must exist if the thing is to hold together, where is that center to be found? Clearly, it can only be outside of time and space. And outside time and space means – outside of the material universe, what you call physical-matter reality.
Anything else is local.
Well, if the true center of your being is located outside time-space, outside matter, and if this proposed center has equal access to all the lives to which you are connected, as clearly it must have, then when you re-adjust the picture – what do you have?
For one thing, you have vastly expanded access to other parts of your being, as you realize (that is, clear away obstructing beliefs from the idea) that all life is going on at the same time, or rather, in the same non-time.
Once realize that “outside time-space” is not a hypothetical but a necessarily true concept, and you see that of necessity the part of yourself that is outside time-space is realer than what you experience sliding over the stream of time-space in 3D. It exists; what seems to you to be “you” within 3D merely seems to exist. Where is the “you” that began to read this, slightly in the past? Where is the “you” that will finish this – or will break off – slightly in the future? Can these transitory phenomena be considered as real as what exists outside of time-space? Plato was not merely skylarking intellectually when he compared the Ideal to the Actual, to the disadvantage of the latter. Of course, preference depends on viewpoint – but even that says the same thing yet again – for outside 3D is the non-place of all viewpoints.
This is enough to be going ahead with. Type it and if you are willing and able we may proceed upon another tack.
(1:20 p.m.) What is it we’re doing here?
For one thing, we’re radically improving your access to guidance, and none too soon. For another, we’re leading others down the same garden path. We smile. For a third we are getting you where you wish to be and intend to be. And finally, we are accomplishing many side-purposes involving others, few of which you will ever hear about in this lifetime.
Oh, only that? I thought you had a real purpose up your sleeve.
Speak to the Egyptian.
[This floored me. I had had a sense of the Egyptian priest for many years, but had never been in direct contact. in other entries more centrally concerned with “past life” explorations, I will discuss what I learned of him, and of Bertram the Norman monk in medieval England, and what the three of us have in common. For now, suffice it to say that as soon as David handed me off to the Egyptian, I could feel the difference. His was an impressive presence. He radiated gravitas, so to speak.]
My friend, I can feel the difference when you are in contact. May I say that I am humbled. I cannot express how much I respect you and envy your everyday life.
I in turn thank you for taking care of our mutual friend, and for you doing the work faithfully, as promised.
I don’t know how faithfully, but anyway I do keep coming back to it. That’s the best that can be said of me, I’m afraid. How would you translate your name? I know it is the equivalent of Joseph somehow.
If you were to call it Lives Within God, or Serves God, that would be close enough – like Joseph [Smallwood]’s Sees Clear, it doesn’t necessarily translate very exactly, especially between two so different cultures and languages. No reason not to call me the Egyptian if you wish, or Joseph the Egyptian. It doesn’t matter much, as you will discover.
Well, as you know I always think of you as The Egyptian, or Joseph the Egyptian.
I observed it.
Of course. I think of your life with such envy. I wish we could live that way here and now.
Each time expresses itself, as each individual person expresses himself (or herself). The advantages and disadvantages make the characteristic flavor of that particular time. Times are flowers no less than people’s lives are, you know.
I hadn’t thought of it that way, but it makes sense as you say it.
Your opportunities are different because your culture, your material surroundings, your history, your technology and your feelings about that technology, are all different. But by far the larger difference is that you as individuals and as part of your society are different. You know – but as David said, your readers do not know – what I am discussing here. You can give it to them in a few words.
[While Rita Warren and I were working sessions together, which was mostly between 2001 and 2004, we got that in Joseph the Egyptian’s time people were less connected one to the other than they were primarily connected to the other side. In other words, they knew and experienced what we mostly have to believe at best. Hence my envy of Joseph’s life. ]
Then – what is your task now? It is not to be pretend-Egyptians any more than pretend-Indians. It is not necessarily to affect your society by direct action – that may be reserved for others. Your task is to live what you are, to choose among the threads of possibility.
Enough for the present. You should do something else for a while, lest you suffer physical consequences, over-straining unhardened muscles.
All right. This really is a great honor.
Earn it. We do not mean to imply that you are not doing so, but – continue.